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joeybaby83

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I was having a peak around uni today, and found this beaut, its an old ford v6 turbo f1 engine, but it was the manifolds that interested me.

I can imagine a ford v6 that revs to hell and back will require different ports/manifold design etc, but maybe these pics are of use/interest to someone (being 3 port and all...)?

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So is that flange one piece or split?

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I bet its only a 1500cc...or so

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joeybaby83

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took some more pics today:











































im surprised at how well they came out considering theyre off my camera phone.

Ill try and find some info on it on monday.

jo



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yep seen one of them at beaulie motor museum.

also at my local aston martin garage had one as a coffe table would you belive.

it was donated buy lotus as they sell lotus's as well.

always looking for them bigger bunches of bannanas


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ps i believe they used to run 60 psi max as well

with 45 being the normal running and scope to run 60 for short bursts but if they got it wrong the good old murry waler saying used to come like "his blown the turbo again".

but thats when F1 was F1 and drivers had to change gear buy with one hand on the stearing wheel.

and racing drivers were racing drivers eg senna, mansell, picque, prost ect ect.

and teddies were always thrown out of ones pram.

always looking for them bigger bunches of bannanas


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Yeah they used to run about 60 psi in qualifying then less in the race. The regs said that either a 3000 na engine could be used (ie. Cosworth dfv) or a 1500 forced induction engine. The biggest limit on the boost levels that they could run was that the fuel tanks were limited to 200l and no refuelling was permitted. So if u turned up the boost too much then u ran out of fuel!!! I help to look after some of the slightly earlier F1 cars than these, but the turbocharged cars are not eligible for our championship.

Looking at those pics i am surprised the turbos are soo small. The brabhams from that era used to run the straight four with a turbo the size of a dinner plate!!


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No it looks a wide angle vee. Was looking at a dfv for a little while today at work cos we just got one back from our engine builder. Our rebuilds are about 10k for a normal rebuild and the engine gets new pistons, bearings, fasteners, valve springs etc. They come back looking stunning!!!!


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Cosworth DFV


Not bad for £50k. A much cheaper bet is the Cosworth XB champ car motor. only £16k and 700bhp at 28psi!!! Someone i know is putting one in a Darrian T90 at the mo!!! 600kg and 700bhp sounds crazy, going to be racing in Britcar.


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Slowly on the 16v front, too much real work at work!!!! Doing silly hours trying to get the cars ready for a test wednesday week at Donington!

Hopefully get some done after that if all goes well and drivers behave themselves!! *oh well*


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Back when F1 was really F1 and the cars were totally different!!!


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good photo's thank mate!
Would love to know the CC and CR of that engine

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I asked a technician today, Its a GBA engine, he said theres a full spec sheet for it somewhere (was originally on that white plaque at the front), hes gonna have a look for it but cant promise anything. jo




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oh, and apparently it touched on 1000bhp!!

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A quick google revealed three in the US for sale at £15k a piece!! Used in a Benetton in 1986 were a 1497cc engine and produced 1000bhp on toluene fuel and 750bhp on normal(ish) fuel. Can't seem to find anything on compression ratios though.


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Way back in the 80's when Ford no longer had a competitive engine they comissioned Keith Duckworth to design the Turbo V6.The BBC did a two part documentary on the design an testing of that engine.Cosworth started off with the 4 cyl BDA type engine as at the time the Bmw was the best engine,that was a 4pot.The documentary shows them testing it ,it gets to 600ish Hp on the dyno then it lets go.Thats when they decided to start from scratch and build the V6.The documentary was called "Turbo" I think.I've probably still got it on video somewhere,I'll try to find it out and watch it,might get some good ideas off it.
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