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So, anyone running this?

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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I was running EFI in 1997 along with Coil per plug and fully mappable ECU 100% better than Carb and dizzy.
have you fitted yours and what do you think of it ?

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was it the minijection system from A1 in leigh perchance?

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No Dave......... Keep guessing ........... oh alright then it was and still is a DTA unit excellent bit of kit and its ready for when I do my 16V 1380 Turbo etc.......

Hows the US of A Dave is it raining like over hear ???

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Coil -per - plug?
So do any photo's of this setup exist? I'd never even seen a coil-per-plug setup with DTA until the P8Pro ECU - unless that's what you have?

IMO DTAe48 is not an 'excellent bit of kit' when it comes to the A-series... It is a good ecu generally, but as well suited to the A-series as coffee is to custard.

Edited by TurboDave16V on 3rd Dec, 2005.

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mra-minis.co.uk

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Yes I have some early pictures - unfortunately the car was used to try and right off a 44 Tonne milk tanker (full of milk) - I could still open both the doors and the police where looking for a corpse or two - still here but changed to Central - used to be in Back S***** *oh well*

How do I get them onto the forum ? or I could email to you ??

Cheers

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email them to alex@afracing.com and I'll host them for you...

that 44 ton milk float must have been huge!

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On 03/12/2005 15:37:38 TurboDave said:

IMO DTAe48 is not an 'excellent bit of kit' when it comes to the A-series... It is a good ecu generally, but as well suited to the A-series as coffee is to custard.


Have you ever tried coffee and custard then Dave ????

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I don't need to.

It'll leave me feeling pissed off with how i've wasted a perfectly good cup of coffee, and a bowl of custard, and instead got a combination that is still a fluid that is theoretically drinkable, but is basically useless because the two ingredients do not mix well.

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Works better with coil per plug and variable timing (firing) angle, and wider spark durations between 6 and 9ms suits the A series better than most !! did you get a dodgy one or maybe someone didn't make up the harness properely
Launch, traction all works ok on mine it has to be calibrated which took a while but infinately better than any dizzy mini.

can't comment on any more than about 16 to 18psi

Interesting to read about the injection side, as I have only tried it on NA minis - really needs cheap 16V heads to be produced ? But then it wouldn't be a challenge *happy*

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Topic is called aftermarket injection. Thought that's what we were discussing.

Coil per plug, whatever. It's exactly the same as wasted spark. In fact - it's not. The coils on wasted sparks are at least double to power of motorcycle coil-per-plug units (as on yours) so a coil pack off any modern motor would inherrently give a superior spark...

Launch control on Older DTA systems is a piece of turd IMO. The control on the later versions far improved it. Even so - single wheel launch control - hmmmm. The day DTA can out-perform my clutch and accelerator foor on a Rainy saturday in manchester, then a sunny sunday in SantaPod without dicking about trying differnt settings is the day i'll show my arse in Burtons Window...

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On 06/12/2005 21:54:20 TurboDave said:

Coil per plug, whatever. It's exactly the same as wasted spark. In fact - it's not. The coils on wasted sparks are at least double to power of motorcycle coil-per-plug units (as on yours) so a coil pack off any modern motor would inherrently give a superior spark...

Launch control on Older DTA systems is a piece of turd IMO. The control on the later versions far improved it. Even so - single wheel launch control - hmmmm. The day DTA can out-perform my clutch and accelerator foor on a Rainy saturday in manchester, then a sunny sunday in SantaPod without dicking about trying differnt settings is the day i'll show my arse in Burtons Window...


Dave you are making TOO many assumptions -

Firstly what makes you so sure that I am using motorcyle coils !!!
They are not from a motorcycle - simple fact !!!
They were experimental coils with a minimum of 85,000v of spark - whereas
your "boggo" units will be hard pressed to maintain 65kv with any reliability !!!
Further - single wheel TC is simple, and a simplistic design is often the best, easiest and less prone to failure - it works, it has also been working on far more cars around the world than you could imagine !!

Burtons doesn't need your arse to sell their wares, but if thats what you want to do, I am sure we can find one that would accomodate your wishes !!!

It's unfortunate that some people seem to feel the need to slag everything off just because they couldn't get it to work for themselves !!!

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Dave is the last person to "slag" anyone off.

MRA what back to back tests did you do with your fantstic ignition set up over "traditional" set ups?

Why did it dissapear of the face of the Earth and not take the "Miniworld" my storm after an inncident with a wagon?

After your 22 post on this site you realy have made an impression(i personally feel,my not be the views of others), mind you most of the posts are promoting your "Christmas Stocking fillers" towing eyes etc.

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I'll see if i can find my picture of EXACTLY the same units from the A1 services 'minijection' efi system from 1999 that had exactly the same coils then - AND were motorbike spec units...
Ok, you had the prototypes. I'll stick to my OEM sourced unit...

BTW - They're still wasted spark...
DTA e48 doesn't have the ability to control 4 (FOUR) seperate coil drivers. Only 2 (TWO) in wasted spark mode.

If you reckon that a simple PID control and a 'slip target' is all that a single-wheel launch control needs for all traction conditions, then you're very mistaken *wink*

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best get the hand bags out LOL*happy*

love that straight cut scream!!!
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