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2629 Posts Member #: 1246 Post Whore Lowestoft, Suffolk. |
30th Dec, 2020 at 12:09:09pm
Out of curiosity has anyone used these?
Edited by shane on 30th Dec, 2020. |
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327 Posts Member #: 1145 Senior Member North Wales |
30th Dec, 2020 at 01:07:37pm
I have been looking at these myself. Definitely a summer tyre. Would like a set of A048 yoko's but not E-marked. Take that as you will but if you end up smashing your car and they are a contributing factor YOUR FUCKED!
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2629 Posts Member #: 1246 Post Whore Lowestoft, Suffolk. |
30th Dec, 2020 at 02:29:36pm
The A048's would have been my tyre of choice IF E marked. Being un enamoured with the A539 is what led to me originally going to 10's and the A032.
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3588 Posts Member #: 655 Post Whore Northern Ireland |
30th Dec, 2020 at 04:17:14pm
Tyres do not need an E mark to be road legal. The rules are strange....the rules only state it is not legal in the UK to sell tyres for road use that do not have E marks ( and probably Europe too )
Edited by stevieturbo on 30th Dec, 2020. 9.85 @ 145mph
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2629 Posts Member #: 1246 Post Whore Lowestoft, Suffolk. |
30th Dec, 2020 at 11:27:55pm
Whats the deal with the " as they are intended to be used on pre 1990 cars only"
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2094 Posts Member #: 9894 Post Whore Dorking |
31st Dec, 2020 at 01:02:41am
They are supposed to be a very very good tyre! Someone has used them in racing and found seconds a lap faster than mig slicks.
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4304 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
31st Dec, 2020 at 07:55:36am
So a pre-1990 car could run the latest A048s?
On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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2629 Posts Member #: 1246 Post Whore Lowestoft, Suffolk. |
31st Dec, 2020 at 09:38:42am
I was having that very same thought.
On 31st Dec, 2020 minimole23 said:
So a pre-1990 car could run the latest A048s? That will be a fun argument at the roadside with VOSA/traffic police. Shane Edited by shane on 31st Dec, 2020. |
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2629 Posts Member #: 1246 Post Whore Lowestoft, Suffolk. |
31st Dec, 2020 at 09:43:44am
On 31st Dec, 2020 jonny f said:
They are supposed to be a very very good tyre! Someone has used them in racing and found seconds a lap faster than mig slicks. Pre 1990 cars do not need to have E marked tyres in the UK. |
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2974 Posts Member #: 10749 Post Whore lowestoft suffolk |
31st Dec, 2020 at 09:29:12pm
That is cool BUT where does it say law wise bout this pre-1990 stuff? On 24th Oct, 2015 jonny f said:
Nothing gets past Dave lol NOTHING GETS PAST ME!! 1/4 mile 14.7 @ 96mph 12psi boost Showdown class A 2nd place 18.6 @ 69mph |
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428 Posts Member #: 10128 Senior Member Dorset |
2nd Jan, 2021 at 12:30:00pm
law wise, I've always used the MSA Blue book as a guide, Section L: Permitted Tyres
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3588 Posts Member #: 655 Post Whore Northern Ireland |
2nd Jan, 2021 at 04:06:43pm
On 31st Dec, 2020 D4VE said:
That is cool BUT where does it say law wise bout this pre-1990 stuff? Maybe before 1990 there was no E marking or their sale rules were different. Certainly recent rules are very different. hardly matters. And we're not in the EU anymore lol. Edited by stevieturbo on 2nd Jan, 2021. 9.85 @ 145mph
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2629 Posts Member #: 1246 Post Whore Lowestoft, Suffolk. |
2nd Jan, 2021 at 09:40:10pm
So if I'm reading that correctly (and excuse me if I haven't as I'm still on the backend of xmas/new year drunken haze) but you can fit NONE E marked tyres based on EU Regulation 1222/2009 to a pre '90 registered car?
On 2nd Jan, 2021 e5tus said:
law wise, I've always used the MSA Blue book as a guide, Section L: Permitted Tyres "...All tyres must carry an EEC 30 or EEC 108 E mark. It is illegal to supply for public highway use new or part-worn tyres that are not E or e marked tyres (ie marked in accordance with requirements of EEC Regulation 30, 30.1, 30.2 or EC. Directive 92/23). This includes VR and ZR tyres (previously exempt). All new tyres sold from 01.11.2012 must be labelled in accordance with EU Reg 1222/2009 All new tyres produced after 01.11.2014 must be marked in accordance with UNECE Regulation 117 (ie carry S, W and R markings)..." However: EU Regulation 1222/2009 for tyre labelling exempts tyres designed for use on cars first registered before the 1st October 1990 The tyres come with an exemption certificate too, I keep a copy in the car. This is for the Avon ACB10, I've not had a problem. Edited by shane on 2nd Jan, 2021. |
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2094 Posts Member #: 9894 Post Whore Dorking |
3rd Jan, 2021 at 11:51:04am
If the MOT or roadside law man doesnt know the rules then show them the rules! |
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428 Posts Member #: 10128 Senior Member Dorset |
3rd Jan, 2021 at 05:05:36pm
On 2nd Jan, 2021 shane said:
So if I'm reading that correctly (and excuse me if I haven't as I'm still on the backend of xmas/new year drunken haze) but you can fit NONE E marked tyres based on EU Regulation 1222/2009 to a pre '90 registered car? If that's the case how does that argument sit with MOT/VOSA and the traffic plods falling foul of construction and use regulations? Is it a valid argument or merely a loop hole that wouldn't stand up in court if the poop hit the twirly thing? I have interpreted it that way, I have to have tyres from 1a or 1b for my class, and also need to be MOT'd and Taxed. Not been mentioned on MOT on either of our cars. The only mention of E marking in the MOT manual is regarding tyres marked "Not for road use" "...You should only accept tyres with NHS, Not for Highway Use or similar markings if they have an E marking and a number contained within a circle. Adjacent to this circle, the sidewall must also be marked with a six digit number, which may be preceded by 75R or similar marking.." I'm sure it would have to be a very eagle eyed officer to notice, my car certainly has bigger more obvious targets for them to poke at first Clear as mud right!?! |
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2629 Posts Member #: 1246 Post Whore Lowestoft, Suffolk. |
3rd Jan, 2021 at 08:35:55pm
Am I correct to believe the A048's have "competition use only" moulded into the side wall? If I'm correct then I'm surprised that it's never picked up by the tester?
Edited by shane on 3rd Jan, 2021. |
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428 Posts Member #: 10128 Senior Member Dorset |
7th Jan, 2021 at 09:31:38am
Not sure about the Yokohama's, but interestingly (or maybe not) the Avon ACB-10 now has both "For racing purposes only, Not for highway use" and an E-Mark.
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2974 Posts Member #: 10749 Post Whore lowestoft suffolk |
8th Jan, 2021 at 08:52:22pm
On 3rd Jan, 2021 shane said:
Am I correct to believe the A048's have "competition use only" moulded into the side wall? If I'm correct then I'm surprised that it's never picked up by the tester? One of my friends ran 13"s on his car and when questions he said he had no issue come MOT time? When fudging around on the internet last night I found two suppliers that list the A048 as a road legal track tyre with no mention of pre 1990 usage. Shane Did have 'competition use only'... DID have... is why it never got questioned mot time 🤣 On 24th Oct, 2015 jonny f said:
Nothing gets past Dave lol NOTHING GETS PAST ME!! 1/4 mile 14.7 @ 96mph 12psi boost Showdown class A 2nd place 18.6 @ 69mph |
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2629 Posts Member #: 1246 Post Whore Lowestoft, Suffolk. |
8th Jan, 2021 at 10:04:21pm
On 8th Jan, 2021 D4VE said:
On 3rd Jan, 2021 shane said:
Am I correct to believe the A048's have "competition use only" moulded into the side wall? If I'm correct then I'm surprised that it's never picked up by the tester? One of my friends ran 13"s on his car and when questions he said he had no issue come MOT time? When fudging around on the internet last night I found two suppliers that list the A048 as a road legal track tyre with no mention of pre 1990 usage. Shane Did have 'competition use only'... DID have... is why it never got questioned mot time 🤣 |
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