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6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
17th Jan, 2016 at 08:45:31am
got another evening at the workshop last night. I got a few things sorted which i'm happy to see progress with.
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16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
17th Jan, 2016 at 08:52:35am
Look for power steering fluid coolers. Brother had a mk 2 mondeo td which had a wide one maybe 50mm tall with connections either at both ends or piped back to one end with a long tube. On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it |
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16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
17th Jan, 2016 at 08:59:24am
EBay181949536224 On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
17th Jan, 2016 at 09:47:01am
The other option I've been looking as is the screw on type that fit on the filter housing and are cooled by water.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
17th Jan, 2016 at 10:02:50am
I'd also suggest the water intercooler type.
Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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10021 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
17th Jan, 2016 at 10:23:22am
We had one on the van for a while. Wasn't very effective.
On 17th Jan, 2016 Rod S said:
I'd also suggest the water intercooler type. If you can get hold of a (normally aspirated) MG Metro one in good condition, it's a straight fit in a Metro shell (no subframe clearance issues like in a Mini) right down to the MG Metro hoses. Problem is most of them have fairly corroded pipe stubs because of their age and people not using proper antifreeze/inhibitors in the coolant in the past. If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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3588 Posts Member #: 655 Post Whore Northern Ireland |
17th Jan, 2016 at 11:23:34am
If using anything other than an oil cooler etc...ie PAS cooler, just make sure it is designed for the pressures involved. PAS or auto tans coolers are always installed on the low pressure return line so may not ever have been designed to run at say 100psi
9.85 @ 145mph
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
17th Jan, 2016 at 11:46:42am
On 17th Jan, 2016 John said:
We had one on the van for a while. Wasn't very effective. Possibly crud on the inside of the water ways, I've never seen one of these in really good condition (aka corroded pipe stubs). Compared to a modern OEM fitment (an awful lot of cars use them now to maintain a stable oil temperature for emission control reasons) the MG Metro one is a reasonable size, the one on my 2.0l Mondeo isn't much bigger. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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4018 Posts Member #: 1757 Back to Fucking Tool status Swindon |
17th Jan, 2016 at 02:37:34pm
Rover k-series turbo oil cooler? Water style could be made to fit. Drives
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6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
17th Jan, 2016 at 02:57:03pm
Cheers guys. I had thought about the water cooled route but wasnt sure it would provide enough cooling. I suppose it would be better than nothing. I would need to see how it would fit up though as i have a spacer block fitted for the turbo feed |
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1750 Posts Member #: 10190 Post Whore belgium |
17th Jan, 2016 at 03:57:32pm
i have some like these laying in the shed. come from a mg metro's
you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
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16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
17th Jan, 2016 at 04:48:54pm
On 17th Jan, 2016 John said:
We had one on the van for a while. Wasn't very effective. On 17th Jan, 2016 Rod S said: I'd also suggest the water intercooler type. If you can get hold of a (normally aspirated) MG Metro one in good condition, it's a straight fit in a Metro shell (no subframe clearance issues like in a Mini) right down to the MG Metro hoses. Problem is most of them have fairly corroded pipe stubs because of their age and people not using proper antifreeze/inhibitors in the coolant in the past. It heated the coolant rather than cooling the oil. Stubs weren't bad, just a little bit of damage on the very ends. Water flowed through it well enough. On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it |
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6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
17th Jan, 2016 at 04:51:40pm
that's the one Rammie; the actual car is also in the photos about 5 or 6 lines down too!
On 17th Jan, 2016 Rammie2000 said:
i have some like these laying in the shed. come from a mg metro's thats the suggestion if i read correct yes? https://www.google.be/search?q=oil+to+water...unA9a9WqtT_M%3A |
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6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
17th Jan, 2016 at 04:52:51pm
I did wonder; going to do some more research; also going to find out how much a bespoke one would be; it may not be as much as I think in the big picture
On 17th Jan, 2016 apbellamy said:
On 17th Jan, 2016 John said:
We had one on the van for a while. Wasn't very effective. On 17th Jan, 2016 Rod S said: I'd also suggest the water intercooler type. If you can get hold of a (normally aspirated) MG Metro one in good condition, it's a straight fit in a Metro shell (no subframe clearance issues like in a Mini) right down to the MG Metro hoses. Problem is most of them have fairly corroded pipe stubs because of their age and people not using proper antifreeze/inhibitors in the coolant in the past. It heated the coolant rather than cooling the oil. Stubs weren't bad, just a little bit of damage on the very ends. Water flowed through it well enough. |
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6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
17th Jan, 2016 at 05:23:18pm
thinking I could possibly make space for this;
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1750 Posts Member #: 10190 Post Whore belgium |
17th Jan, 2016 at 05:29:40pm
do these work well? you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
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806 Posts Member #: 989 Post Whore North Yorkshire |
17th Jan, 2016 at 07:04:42pm
Ive got the MG metro modine oil cooler on my metro turbo and it can't cope with motorway runs. The oil temp creeps up to 120C. A rad type cooler will be going back on. |
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6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
17th Jan, 2016 at 07:17:41pm
well that confirms it then |
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16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
17th Jan, 2016 at 07:26:38pm
I think that is the same one from the van. On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it |
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6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
17th Jan, 2016 at 07:35:15pm
missed this earlier; also a possibility. perhaps not as efficient as the traditional oil cooler though, particularly if the oil is running through at pressure. I could see it working on low pressure though
On 17th Jan, 2016 apbellamy said:
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3588 Posts Member #: 655 Post Whore Northern Ireland |
17th Jan, 2016 at 07:42:26pm
On 17th Jan, 2016 apbellamy said:
On 17th Jan, 2016 John said:
We had one on the van for a while. Wasn't very effective. On 17th Jan, 2016 Rod S said: I'd also suggest the water intercooler type. If you can get hold of a (normally aspirated) MG Metro one in good condition, it's a straight fit in a Metro shell (no subframe clearance issues like in a Mini) right down to the MG Metro hoses. Problem is most of them have fairly corroded pipe stubs because of their age and people not using proper antifreeze/inhibitors in the coolant in the past. It heated the coolant rather than cooling the oil. Stubs weren't bad, just a little bit of damage on the very ends. Water flowed through it well enough. Strictly speaking by heating the coolant, it will have drawn some heat from the oil, as it is designed to do. But if your water cooling system is already struggling, giving it more heat to cope with isnt good. And given the temperature difference between the two to start with, coolant based head exchangers are never going to be as efficient, and you'd want them plumbed into water which has already been cooled by the radiator. 9.85 @ 145mph
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16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
17th Jan, 2016 at 08:11:52pm
They are fed from the bottom hose and return through the heater matrix. On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it |
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3004 Posts Member #: 2500 Post Whore Buckinghamshire |
17th Jan, 2016 at 08:12:44pm
ROB I have a Peugeot 306D you could have for the cost of postage,but, like that Mercedes one I think it will be too big. |
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6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
17th Jan, 2016 at 08:45:09pm
I've just been having a look on google but it was only coming up with the water cooler ones. Is is an air cooler? would be interested to see what it looks like
On 17th Jan, 2016 tadge44 said:
ROB I have a Peugeot 306D you could have for the cost of postage,but, like that Mercedes one I think it will be too big. |
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9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
17th Jan, 2016 at 08:49:55pm
I put an oil cooler on mine because oil temps were 120 at 60mph
Yes i moved to the darkside
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