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Ryancarlin1

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How many of you have used side mounted turbo manifolds? Just want to see some pictures and also where the turbo will sit, there won't be enough room for the brake servo, shall I use a remote servo or not use one at all? What do you think is best?


jonny f

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Don't use a servo. not many people on here use them anyway and its good weight saving.


theoneeyedlizard

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Search remote manifold or side mount

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Turbo This..

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prefer to have to push the peddle a bit more and feel the brakes work
found it harder with a booster when throwing the car around or coming into a bumpy corner when pushing the cars limits

not really running or using the side mount turbo as yet but its running
theirs a bunch of pics up in my show us yours not saying that mine is the right way or the way to do it as ive not finished the car and not been boosting around on it yet
however its my idea on a side mount that i think should work that said i would do things a bit differently next time live and learn...
my set up is a task to assemble to say the least its worth the time to figure out ways to make it all work so it can be easily assembled


wil_h

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The only advantage to a sidemount (in my eyes) is to be able to build a manifold like Paul's. If you're not going into that much detail, then you might as well stick it down the back of the engine.

It's better for weight distribution and CoG for a start. And in your case it means you don't have to think about the brakes.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


Paul S

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Some discussion here as well:

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=550197

My simulations show that there is potentially an extra 5-10% more power available if done correctly i.e. using the right length and diameter pipes. Even more if mated up with a tuned length inlet.

The first mod to any standard NA mini is to junk the cast iron exhaust manifold. I think that the Metro turbo exhaust manifold should be regarded in exactly the same way. It was designed for packaging with no regard to the effect on performance. In fact the science behind performance manifolds was little understood and rarely implemented back in the 80s.

I'm currently collecting bits to make one out of an MPi exhaust manifold.

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wolfie29177

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if you've got Vizards bible there's a picture of the Janspeed setup in there

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Paul S

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Yes, the Janspeed setup is a good example of how not to do it *smiley*

Runner length is critical.

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danb41

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Whats the ideal runner lengths and pipe I/D to use Paul?

My build thread: http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=454802

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Paul S

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As a general guide, the closest you can get to the LCB dimensions the better. The pulses are still there to be used on a turbo motor just the same as NA, only the amplitude is much bigger and therefore can be used to great effect.

The yellow bible gives ideal LCB dimensions for large and small bore motors.

This is definitely not a case of the bigger the better. Too large a pipe and you lose the pulses. Too short a pipe and they come back too quick.

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