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Chalkie

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Hey guys

bet you guys have seen this but what are you thoughts on it?


http://podifold.com/

I'm interested but £550 at the moment.


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I can't comment on the design and I guess a lot will depend on some testing in both performance, setup, and if it lasts.

IMO with my kit it's not just the kit, it's all of the setup to get it to run correctly. There will no doubt be a learning curve like there was with the current eaton kits. Now there is more info on the common problems and how to resolve them. All part of the development..
Hopefully there won't be any and it will be great, but you will be forging the way, I mean the designer hasn't run it yet?

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
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Joe C

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I like the concept, and I think it will work fairly well, But...

IMO

its just too damn expensive for what it is, the chap needs to look at getting them done in batches to get the price down, maybe by standardizing the fitment, ie flange to take HIF or a TB,

It needs to come with ancilleries to make the fitment easier, basically a belt drive kit.

it needs rejiging so it will work with small bore block too,



On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Chalkie

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I know Joe I want to supercharge my Mini and its a 998.

I hate suck through on the Eaton as its not designed to have fuel across the blades.

I like the look of this manifold but without it tested I can't hand over that amount of money even with TMF discount its £495 still.

what other options are there I know Graham & Andy has the SC12 Setup that kit comes from Auz then finding a charger like finding hens teeth.

Did look at the merc m45 charger as well but i want an intercooler in the set up to keep the temps down.

Hmm


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Never been tested, therefore it should not be on the market. It could create all sorts of running problems, it needs to have been run reliably for a few thousand miles before even thinking about making and selling them.

On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper

On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!!

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Cantelo

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Just sent them an email so lets see what comes back. I may consider this route if feasible.

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REALLY?! They haven't even been tested properly yet! I'm so surprised it's been posted in mini mags ect..

On 16th Nov, 2014 Cantelo said:
Just sent them an email so lets see what comes back. I may consider this route if feasible.

They don't die, they just get faster!


Cantelo

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You need to understand my definition of feasible!!!


On 16th Nov, 2014 Shauna said:
REALLY?! They haven't even been tested properly yet! I'm so surprised it's been posted in mini mags ect..

On 16th Nov, 2014 Cantelo said:
Just sent them an email so lets see what comes back. I may consider this route if feasible.

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Hahaha! Maybe you should stay away from TMF where he has said himself he hopes his engine doesn't blow up when it goes on the rolling road, fills you with confidence *happy*!


On 16th Nov, 2014 Cantelo said:
You need to understand my definition of feasible!!!


On 16th Nov, 2014 Shauna said:
REALLY?! They haven't even been tested properly yet! I'm so surprised it's been posted in mini mags ect..

On 16th Nov, 2014 Cantelo said:
Just sent them an email so lets see what comes back. I may consider this route if feasible.

They don't die, they just get faster!


slater

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WAY to expensive. Other than that beats the other options really so fair enough.


Sprocket

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I like the concept, however, all these blow through set ups overlook one significant fundamental operating condition! Engine overrun!
The throttle should ALWAYS be infront of the supercharger!

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 16th Nov, 2014 Chalkie said:

what other options are there I know Graham & Andy has the SC12 Setup that kit comes from Auz then finding a charger like finding hens teeth.


i know of a complete settup good to go, just came off a 998 local lad to me hes looking for £800 atm its only been advertised localy so far

edit: my opinion to the 'podifold' you could make one for less....if your happy to use stainless i bet £150 quid and a couple weekends work

Edited by Brett on 16th Nov, 2014.

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It took johnnysti and Slark nearly 12 months to overcome the issues with a blowthrough set up and it sounded gash!

Blow through is silly!, intercooling is not.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


Joe C

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yeaah but suck through carbs are.... hazardous,

Ive seen the fall out LOL

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



evolotion

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could you have a throttle pre-charger and an SU with no throttle plate post charger, because of the way the SU works this may be a viable option :)

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

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Chalkie

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maybe turbo will be safer then bmw made it work with the r53 so how hard can it be? the throttle is infront of the charger so.


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On 16th Nov, 2014 evolotion said:
could you have a throttle pre-charger and an SU with no throttle plate post charger, because of the way the SU works this may be a viable option :)


why struggle on with a carb, when fuel injection is perfect for this.

I suppose it depends on which EFi school you attend*Clapping*

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 16th Nov, 2014 Chalkie said:
n bmw made it work with the r53 so how hard can it be? the throttle is infront of the charger so.


Exactly, throttle pre supercharger, huge recirculation valve post supercharger, and all rigid charge air ducting, then of course, fuel injection.


I didn't say it was hard, but rather most seem to overlook what manufacturers have spent millions on developing.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


Joe C

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true,

dosent the merc charger have this built in, cant be arsed to google it

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



evolotion

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On 16th Nov, 2014 Sprocket said:



On 16th Nov, 2014 evolotion said:
could you have a throttle pre-charger and an SU with no throttle plate post charger, because of the way the SU works this may be a viable option :)


why struggle on with a carb, when fuel injection is perfect for this.

I suppose it depends on which EFi school you attend*Clapping*


because having a blow through hif and throttle pre-charger doesnt compute. obv such a setup is a no brainer with EFI. on the same note, why struggle with the a-series *tongue*

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.


Sprocket

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Move the throttle to the wrong side of the piston on the su carb and it wont work. Point taken though on the last comment :)

On 17th Nov, 2014 evolotion said:



On 16th Nov, 2014 Sprocket said:



On 16th Nov, 2014 evolotion said:
could you have a throttle pre-charger and an SU with no throttle plate post charger, because of the way the SU works this may be a viable option :)


why struggle on with a carb, when fuel injection is perfect for this.

I suppose it depends on which EFi school you attend*Clapping*


because having a blow through hif and throttle pre-charger doesnt compute. obv such a setup is a no brainer with EFI. on the same note, why struggle with the a-series *tongue*

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 17th Nov, 2014 evolotion said:


why struggle with the a-series *tongue*


A question i kept asking my self for far too long

Yes i moved to the darkside *happy*

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On 16th Nov, 2014 Sprocket said:
I like the concept, however, all these blow through set ups overlook one significant fundamental operating condition! Engine overrun!
The throttle should ALWAYS be infront of the supercharger!


I'm glad you said that before I got to far with my set up. I'm going to re configure to this now.


HUBBAHUBBA

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For anyone who's interested, here's a link to my first engine running using a Podifold manifold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTe75TYnZnw


Sprocket

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Lol, ok it idles.

I still feel a most significant factor has been overlooked.

Why re invent the wheel?

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........

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