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lee.pb

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Looks like the mini has found another issue to throw at me........

The inlet valve oil seal keeps liftign off its seat, going to look at glueing it down with the spring insitue as a first attempt. After cleaning all the oil away with ear buds and rags.

If this doesn't work, have any of you removed the sring with the head and rockers still fitted.

I know i will have to make something but was wondering if anyone had done this before.

What the mind can conceive the mini can achieve
MITP 2012 17.01 seconds 1/4 mile against "The Don"
MITP 2013 16.83 seconds 1/4 mile


slater

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You can do it. You put compressed air down your plug hole and make some kind of lever setup from the rocker post/head stud to compress the spring. Not sure its worth fannying about with if you dont have the kit already tho.


madmk1

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Head off time mate *smiley*

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lee.pb

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I will not be defeated, that head is not coming off just yet.

I'll end up with shares in BK450 head gaskets, you must have a few shares now Si.

On 17th Jun, 2014 madmk1 said:
Head off time mate *smiley*

What the mind can conceive the mini can achieve
MITP 2012 17.01 seconds 1/4 mile against "The Don"
MITP 2013 16.83 seconds 1/4 mile


madmk1

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Yes mate I have loads sat about, what I would say mate is make sure you CR is right is that's where all my sadness came from.

I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf

Nothing is impossible it just costs more and takes longer.

On 1st Nov, 2007 Ben H said:
There is no such thing as 'insignificant weight saving', it all adds up.


John

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Do you have inner spring locators?

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


lee.pb

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Not sure, its a Benross head.

Its always the same valve too.


On 17th Jun, 2014 John said:
Do you have inner spring locators?

What the mind can conceive the mini can achieve
MITP 2012 17.01 seconds 1/4 mile against "The Don"
MITP 2013 16.83 seconds 1/4 mile


John

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Ask Steve about it. If it hasn't it may be worth adding them and glueing the seal down as well.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


alaskanow0

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Just glued one of mine in situ. Easier though, as I am only running single springs.

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Tom Fenton
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You can do the spring in situ by feeding soft rope through the spark plug hole then winding the piston to TDC which will hold the valve up.


On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:


On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


John

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How would you compress the valve spring using this method mate?

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


lee.pb

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now thats a great idea, just need to make a a method of ompressiong the spring.

On 17th Jun, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
You can do the spring in situ by feeding soft rope through the spark plug hole then winding the piston to TDC which will hold the valve up.

What the mind can conceive the mini can achieve
MITP 2012 17.01 seconds 1/4 mile against "The Don"
MITP 2013 16.83 seconds 1/4 mile


Tom Fenton
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You'd need something that hooks under the rocker shaft with a long lever to allow you to pull the spring down.


On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:


On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


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Something like this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEALEY-TOOLS-VS1...d#ht_1884wt_818


On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:


On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


lee.pb

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-VS1601-co...=item2a3e02a261

Cheers Tom,

May look at one of these too.


On 17th Jun, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Something like this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEALEY-TOOLS-VS1...d#ht_1884wt_818

What the mind can conceive the mini can achieve
MITP 2012 17.01 seconds 1/4 mile against "The Don"
MITP 2013 16.83 seconds 1/4 mile


apbellamy

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Headgasket is cheaper...

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


lee.pb

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Tight arse lol.

Going to try and fix it in situe first.

Other than that its head off, just need some more arp lube again.


On 18th Jun, 2014 apbellamy said:
Headgasket is cheaper...

What the mind can conceive the mini can achieve
MITP 2012 17.01 seconds 1/4 mile against "The Don"
MITP 2013 16.83 seconds 1/4 mile


John

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Do em with oil if you have run out. I'll have a look if I still have a packet as I use a large tube usually.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


lee.pb

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may still have some on the lid i used originally as dont tend to throw things out.

On 18th Jun, 2014 John said:
Do em with oil if you have run out. I'll have a look if I still have a packet as I use a large tube usually.

What the mind can conceive the mini can achieve
MITP 2012 17.01 seconds 1/4 mile against "The Don"
MITP 2013 16.83 seconds 1/4 mile


skolawn

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I have a special tool like the once suggested, grips around bottomcoil of spring and then leavers down on cap, the good length of about 4mm Diameter nylon cord in the bore when piston about 3/4 of way up and then turn engine over by hand to crush it into the chamber to hold valve in place, this works better than the compressed air tool, I have one of those as well. Used to do this all the time on the old Sierra CVH engines.


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Yup, rope method is a doddle, and more trustworthy than air.

Although if you used air and the piston at TDC, even if the air seal is broken, the valve wont fall too far.

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