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notabmw1

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Hello guys, this will be my first post, and have been trying to formulate a plan for over the winter. Currently I am trying to wrap up my 61 Morris Minor I put a 95 Camaro v6 fuel injected engine in. Today hopefully will be it's 2nd time ever out of the garage. Anyway, so I have a 76 Clubman Estate with a 1098 in it, RHD. Engine/Gearbox is in excellent shape and I would like to leave it alone internally. I am installing a Specialist Components 5 Port Injection setup on a customers car and would like to go ahead and do one on mine. Being an Estate I was slightly concerned about fueling, I really did not want to do what I did in the Morris which is run a LP pump to a fuel accumulator then HP pump, but that seems to be the easiest way around that. I would like to do a remote turbo over the flywheel cover. Any suggestions into what turbo to look from to build boost early, since I am keeping motor stock, would keep the revs well under 6k. Basically I just want a fun little street car to poke around, nothing over the top, the Morris can handle that, and the Trabant can handle being the slowest car in the stable. I understand the 1098 has roughly 45bhp @ 5250rpm and 56lb ft @ 2,700rpm. Compression ratio of around 8.3:1/8.5:1 . What would be the threshold of trashing parts in stock form. Would like to see somewhere in the 70hp range.... Thanks guys for any suggestions/comments.





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nice wagon
i think you may be pushing the limits to use the car as is to make reliable power (fast is never fast enough imo) do you know the cars history?
the long stroke will help build boost lower witch is good
a new modern turbo will be better of course than the old clanker t3 im using
you will benofort from mapped ignition vs a dissy


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I like the look

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
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a gt15 garret , or a small ihi turbo , anything off a car that has the same sort of power your looing for really . I think you will easily hit 70 bhp , especially with a nice inj system you can map .

Edited by robert on 5th Oct, 2013.

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


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That looks old skool as fuck. Love it


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I have built before a stock suzuki g10t and that used a IHI RHB31/32 turbocharger. Wonder how that would translate over to the 1098? The history of the car is good, had 20k original miles, mechanically in really great shape, welding was a little amateur, but not too bad I will revisit it maybe in the spring. I redid all suspension, brakes, etc, fabricated roof rack, dash, and many other things. Now I would like a small performance increase... something to tinker around with.
























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Great looking car, what are the wheels?


notabmw1

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The wheels are 13x7 Aero Race Wheels Spun Formed. They were all chrome, and just painted the centers black. Still trying to fabric a center cap that is low profile.


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While I want to get the SC Injection kit, I am wondering if I could get away with a Hif38, or my buddy is offering me his WEBER 32/36 DGV... would this work with the turbo well? I see they have a nice turbo plenum for them as well available. Might run this for a year or so till I can spend the money on the SC setup.


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i think almost any crab can be converted but the amount of things needed probably out weighs just getting the right one?
to start with you need to equalize the flue bowl with the boost pressure
i think u may have problems with boost messing up the jetting as well due to the way they meter fuel and air?


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I dont understand what the problem is.





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WEBER DGV TURBO KIT

I know this is not mini specific, but carb, plenum, fueling, etc...


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not saying it cant be done as it clearly can be..
just saying perhaps its more effort than finding a hif44 turbo crab?

by the way that looks a neat set up!
some water/meth injection would top that off well!


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very neat setup *happy*
as for the HIF44 it would be about £30-£40 postage from the UK to down under.

just so happen to have a converted HIF44 to turbo, as i bought it and mate has now given me another HIf44 too

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On 9th Oct, 2013 notabmw1 said:
I dont understand what the problem is.


The "problem" isn't a problem as such, it's just a complication.

For a carb to work under boost pressure anywhere that pressure could leak out has to be sealed and, very specifically, the float chamber has to be pressurised to boost pressure (minimum) or the fuel simply isn't going to come out the jet(s) if the air passing over them is at a higher pressure than the fuel.

Carbs work on pressure differences created by flow velocity through venturis. If the static pressures are different, it simply won't work.

I can't remember where the float chamber vent is on a downdraught weber (years since I touched one) so maybe in your example piccys the big bit over the top does pressurise the float chamber but what about all the other places pressurised air (probably including vapourised fuel) could leak out, ie throttle spindle.

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???


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Over this past weekend I went down to the Mini 54 and on Friday at the swap meet someone had a brand new Weber with Plenum, so I had to pick it up... Turbo should arrive tomorrow it looks like, and the rest of piecing it together continues.




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nice job !

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


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Well my buddy came over with his chevy sprint converted Mini and got to take if for a blast, and it pulled quite nicely. He donated a sprint intercooler with integrated BOV, some piping, 50mm aluminum radiator, and some other odds and ends. So now I am trying to figure out which distributor to go with, or how to set it up properly on a A-Series. After much research, I am wondering if I should go megajolt. Trying to keep it simple though, and cheap...

Edited by notabmw1 on 29th Oct, 2013.


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Megajolt is tried and tested.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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Well started in a few days ago, gonna have to put it on hold for a little bit, but I decided to cut the intake off the stock cast manifold and will use that to start from.




Opened up to .70mm to give a larger shot of fuel under acceleration.




Another .70mm hole drilled with the pin vise to extend the progression circuit.


All done, got the linkage sorted out for the most part.


Had the flip carb around to get better throttle routing. Hopefully this won't be an issue. I don't like having the choke on the backside, but hopefully it will be set it and forget it.


The tiny tiny turbo infront of the 61 Minor.


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weber dfid make some turbo carbs which is what i think you have pictured above as these were used to convert n/a cvh engines to turbo as a kit form and produced good results just that over here there very rare and so are spares for the carb. nice looking build keep up the good work

Done now needs redoing lol

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