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johnK

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A few pics of the finished head and induction set up






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nice

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Do you have or will you have a fuel rail setup for this? Also, have checked, or thought about checking, to see if some existing COPs will fit on the sparkplugs?

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Paint it green and jobs a goodun

I seriously doubt it!


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that does look nice. Interested to see some flow figures on this compared to a 5 port, cast 7 port and 16v head

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On 27th Jan, 2010 Jimster said:
that does look nice. Interested to see some flow figures on this compared to a 5 port, cast 7 port and 16v head


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I seriously doubt it!


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Cant wait to see this on sunday and discuss with you, I hope it performs as good as it looks. Think I would want a clear bonnet though as well!


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Cant wait to see this on sunday and discuss with you, I hope it performs as good as it looks. Think I would want a clear bonnet though as well!


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so nice john, can you email me some prices please :)

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this is very nice
just need a price now......


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think i may have to re-mortage....lol

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On 1st Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I bet my first wank came quicker than your first mini turbo


These new modern turbos with their quick spool up time, would make the competition harder.


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Lovely John, really nice example of engineering, only one question how come you went with those anchor weight inlet valves surely reversion is not going to be an issue with this type of head setup,
also dose it work on standard rocker spacing,

cant wait to see flow figures it will be nice to have something to compare with
best regards,
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Edited by PaulH on 27th Jan, 2010.

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I find the easiest way is to super glue the bolt to the end of one of my fingers.

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Looks a bit amateur to me. *happy*









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Dumb question as usual and pleas don't take the piss :

Different lenght of inlet tract is not only for clearance issues, right ?
How come ?
Does a bend on 1 and 4 end up making 'em 1 inch shorter or the like ?

(oh and by the way : that is a wet dreams head !)

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They said "That sounds rough mate." I said "Cheers it cost me a fortune to make it sound like that!"


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Paul ,harsh ouch,lol

i have used rimflow valves in my own heads for 20 years now and i remember the first time i used them to replace a set of race type valves ,i could physically see / fel the engine come on cam 300 rpm sooner, and if correctly fitted at there correct height will see 9500rpm, enough for any three bearing 1275 lump,

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On 27th Jan, 2010 PaulH said:
Lovely John, really nice example of engineering, only one question how come you went with those anchor weight in let valves surely reversion is not going to be an issue with this type of head setup,

cant wait to see flow figures it will be nice to have something to com pair with
best regards,
Paul.

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looks great john , couple of q ,

is that deck thick enough to take a high skim under the spark plugs

,and is the protrusion of the plugs into the chamber sufficient ?

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Just wondering how can I connect supercharger to that head... *hehe!* *tongue*

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never messed with ally heads before so just wondering, don't you have to skim them when they've been removed so they'l only have a short life with how often they get removed from our engines?

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lol Carl definitely not meant to be harsh with out doubt johns work is super and this head is a typical example of that, I really don't want to take away from that, It just that talking with the designer of these valves only short time ago about my own efforts with my head Paul said that in later testing with the latest cam profiles from the states and later port technology he found there to be no difference in these valves compared with the standard Item. could it be passable that the heads you are fitting these to are very heavily ported heads with very large inlet tracts thus having relatively slow port velocities allowing easy reversion and with these type of valve combating this you seen good improvements.
ho and no doubt they will work at 9500 rpm but at what cost ??

On 27th Jan, 2010 fastcarl said:
Paul ,harsh ouch,lol

i have used rimflow valves in my own heads for 20 years now and i remember the first time i used them to replace a set of race type valves ,i could physically see / fel the engine come on cam 300 rpm sooner, and if correctly fitted at there correct height will see 9500rpm, enough for any three bearing 1275 lump,

carl


On 27th Jan, 2010 PaulH said:
Lovely John, really nice example of engineering, only one question how come you went with those anchor weight in let valves surely reversion is not going to be an issue with this type of head setup,

cant wait to see flow figures it will be nice to have something to com pair with
best regards,
Paul.

On 17th Feb, 2009 Rob H said:

I find the easiest way is to super glue the bolt to the end of one of my fingers.

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On 27th Jan, 2010 matty said:
Looks a bit amateur to me. *happy*


I don't know, I've got a feeling that you couldn't make on of these by chain drilling!

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feel free to shoot me down in flames As still very much a noob when it comes to head work but would slightly smaller valves not be better? atleast 1/8th of each valve is heavily shrouded, or does simply having a larger valve overcome this?

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the valve sizing game is a trade off, between schrouding on the side next to the chamber wall and the extra curtain area it offers eleswhere coupled with port shape,
sim ple really,
i am more interested in it's cooling capabilities,


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johnK

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-COP, I haven't looked at the options but think clearance to ITB linkage would be an issue

- fuel rail, yes there is a stainless custome fuel rail - just not in the pics!

- ITB lengths - two reasons, one was to avoid using a single piece ram pipe for two cylinders and secondly we wanted to play with increasing the torque spread on the motor with having different length inlet tracts

- flow figures - time permitting I'd have done this first and compared it to the K info we have.

- Matt - prices - need to sort this out on Friday! - finger in the air a good chunk less that the iron one!

- Valves - I'm keeping quiet! its a nice 36.5mm so thought we'd try it to see what it does on a 36mm dia port. They are all damn heavy when compared to a 5mm stem K!

- deck to plug, I'd be happy to see 40-50thou off the head before it bacame an issue

- plugs - the pics show the plugs dropped in by hand without the washers being compressed - very happy with protrusion-ooeer

- rockers - this head has gone together with the roller rockers as purchased from Iain a while back

- valve sizes - on a vertical valve operation head you'll always suffer chamber shrouding to a degree, I'm happy the chamber won't cause restrictions - but thats what the dyno test is for

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sweet, like i say know not much about headwork (an area i really must invest some time in learning about) so curious to know why people like yourself who know what there talking about do the things you do!

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

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johnK

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pic down the inlet tract, 36mm throttle body without spindles.

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