cowling mod, worth wile?
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Hi fellers,
Do you think this will help cooling or disrupt air flow?



opinions please...

Tar

IMO that'll allow air to spill out the sides without going through the rad, so a bad thing IMO.

Richard.

Minivanless, but reluctantly happy living with the decision. There'll be another one day.
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Bad idea tbh

I seriously doubt it!

hi lads as its my eng in the pic. It dont same to effect the cooling at all when i drive it imo it all works well at the mo

I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf

Nothing is impossible it just costs more and takes longer.

sorry i stole the pic from your build thread, i thought it would be a good plan but i had second thoughts.

what radiator are you using madmk1?

its a radtec alloy rad

Edited by madmk1 on 4th Jan, 2010.

I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf

Nothing is impossible it just costs more and takes longer.

at high speed it will be better ,att low speed ,much worse

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM

As its a daily driver think ill leave it then, thanks for the help chaps!

You would save more weight fitting a plastic fan

I am very interrested in the improvements you can made to Mini cooling short of changing the rad.

I red that it's best to close the area between rad and inner wing on clubmans. Is it also applicable to round nose ?

Also I have thougt of some kind of duct at the back of the rad to catch fresh air coming in.
But the area is quite crowded so propably not worthwhile, what do you think ?

Edited by Advantage on 2nd Jan, 2010.

Rusty by nature

As outlined above - bad idea, the cowling is there to make sure the fan pushes the air through all the rad face - its a good idea to use thin double sided foam when fitting the shroud to ensure a 100% seal all around. Fan placement within the shroud is essential - ie - inside the shroud not outside it! - lastly the air passing under the floor of the car when its moving creates a negative pressure zone which in theory sucks the air out of the rad as well, sealing the rad to inner wing is a good idea as well - from memory the clubmans have some osrt of duct in place already?

- see even back in the early 50's the BL engineers were clever sods, probably from all the time working on fighter planes or tanks.lol!

JK

If Carling made Mini engines
it would probably be like this one!

I have a round nose mini so front mounted rad is not very easy if you don't want to cut anything.

Rusty by nature

Advantage - maybe you don't know my background? I am a degree qualified mech design engineer of 15 + years and have worked for tier one suppliers (where I project managed and designed/developed front/rear suspension component which saved the launch date of the mk1 focus!) and at Lotus as a principal chassis engineer on product and client projects for over 7 years - I'm fully aware of the design to production process and the challenges in between!!

I was just highlighting the fact that they knew their onions back in the 50's without having cad/cfd or other fancy "helping hands"

JK

If Carling made Mini engines
it would probably be like this one!

this reminds me of a post a while ago and paul put his set up on.....let me have ago at me poor searching skills..

yup still cant find it.

Edited by t@z on 4th Jan, 2010.

JK, I was not trying to be disrespectful to anyone and if I did I do apologies.

What I meant is it is not because stuff are done a certain way that it is the best way.
You will agree to me on this one.

It obviously is the best regarding what performance it provides vs how much it costs and how easy it is to fit.

But as we, amateur builder, have more time and accept paying a price, I am looking for an improved setup cooling wise.

So duct at the back provided I can make one and rad to inner wing seal to enhance the negative pressure effect in the wing, correct ?

Rusty by nature

Ive done a similar thing to my NA 998 but cut that whole section out.
HOWEVER i dont use a mechanical fan either. I use an electric fan on the outside of the rad.
It works great, never over heats and frees up a small amount of power (minute). It also drops warm up times dramitcally.
Id only do this to that engine though. Anything with more power is going to need all the cooling it can get.

Hi lads, I have been thinking alot about my coolant system and have come up with an idea. I will be using a Kenlowe fan sucking air through the inner wing, and will cut the inner wing to the dimensions of the fan so it is a nice tight fit with the rad. Then the cowling system will be sealed to the inner wing. I have come up with a scoop idea to direct the cool air flow from the grill to the rad. What do you think ? Ideas welcome before I cut alluminium into scrap. I haven't test fitted it to the car yet so some dimension tweeking and bracket fabrication may be in order.

Edited by madmk1 on 4th Jan, 2010.

I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf

Nothing is impossible it just costs more and takes longer.

I was thinking of doing something similar like this in order to ditch the mechanical fan. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.

I think i may start work on tomorrow then

I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf

Nothing is impossible it just costs more and takes longer.

that looks good,

I may have to steal that idea

well i will keep you posted how i get on with it

I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf

Nothing is impossible it just costs more and takes longer.

i bet atleast 5 cars have this style by the end of the summer....lol
i like it alot,
makes sense