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pete

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sunday morning with hangover start to modify a head, smart coments allowed, also usefull tips.









Edited by AlexF2003 on 1st Aug, 2004.


AlexF2003

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all looks good to me...

have you measured the size of your chambers?

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pete

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not measured chambers yet. just rough cut not pollish yet. lost my bronze valve guides, i want 4 stainles steel exhaust valves with large valve faces, i can get valves but all have thin faces


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what do you mean by large faces?

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should probably start a new thread about this, but hey, has anyone done any definative testing on the best shape of cylinder head? ive heard of people using completly round chambers? i understand the theory when applied to na engines, but i also realise that the rules are slightly diferent with a turbo engine.

Nice work by the way, almost identical to mine, only i stuck with standard valve sizes.

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AlexF2003

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yes many people have, however they will not share the results!

You can understand why I am sure!

Alex

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This is the first area im going to improve once this engine is up and running. got a few spare heads to be going on with.


pete

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alex, were valve face seat size are normal not like race valve were face and seat are thin, i need 4 quality valves


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Alex, do you really believe that back-to-back tests have been carried out on engine dynos with different chamber shapes, but identical porting, CR and valvetrain geometry???

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Well, I for sure don't! :)

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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thats the only way you will know.

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yes it funny how many different shapes there are out there.

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On 4th of Feb, 2007 at 03:56pm Miniwilliams said:
yes it funny how many different shapes there are out there.


yes Matt,i can testify to that seing as my wife has been most of them over the years,lol

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THAT WAS A COMPLIMENT.some of those sizes were most unflattering,lol,

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hello, just wondering what tools you require to attempt this, i am supercharging a 1275 a plus over the summer and am going to need to open up the head a little, also quite fancy having a go at opening up the ports and matching etc but was just wondering whether you need a mill or can it be done with a drill and grinding stone??

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nobby, if you haven't done this already, you can do this using a dremel type tool with a flexi drive, using various sizes/shapes of grinding stones. Be aware it takes some time! I've just had my MPi on the rollers with a home ported head and got 74bhp, so it can be worthwhile!


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On 4th Feb, 2007 fastcarl said:
THAT WAS A COMPLIMENT.some of those sizes were most unflattering,lol,

THREAD HYJACK, she'll get the kitchen when i'm ready.lol.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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On 4th Feb, 2007 fastcarl said:
THAT WAS A COMPLIMENT.some of those sizes were most unflattering,lol,




HAHAHAHA, I haven't seen this previously! *Rofl!*

Edited by Vegard on 5th Jul, 2009.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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IMHO head modifying, even with the Vizard guide, is not something that an amateur can do well. It is relatively easy to make an improvement on a standard head by just cleaning it up and making a bit more room in some places. I,ve done a lot and the biggest mistake I have made is taking off too much metal - you can always take more off, but its tricky putting it back.
I am happy with the results of a professionally modified head (Thanks again, Phil) and would not recommend anyone with limited experience to do more than I have suggested, and to make sure the valves seats are perfect.
Its different of you have experience and a supply of heads to play with, of course.

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