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I ask this as the TB injector in my SPi set up is rather noisey, but its not constant.

Whats happening is, at less than 2500 rpm the injector is quiet. over 2500 rpm there is an audiable metalic tap, not dissimilar to an mal adjusted tappet. The rate at which it taps does not rise at the same rate as engine rmp. If you lift off slightly the rate is the same but the tap is less intense. Lifting off completely on over run its quiet. Oh and the 2500 rpm is bang on the button so the ECU is deffo doing something

So, is it at all possible that not only is the Duty cycle being altered but also the current.

Theory being that less current will reduce the opening stroke of the pintle while still at the same duty cycle.

Maybe im stupid, ive not read up too much yet on this, maybe thats how injectors are controled, maybe im talking utter bollox, I dont know. Just thought id share my brain storm with you.

MS

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
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Yep I agree with TD........


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I do not know about the SPi injector but my guess it is the same as a conventional injector, but I stand to be corrected.

Conventional injectors are feed by a 12v live feed, the ecu grounds the -ve to fire the injector. This saves powering the injectors via the ECU.

The injector is just a big solenoid operating a valve and is usually either open or shut.

From an electrical point of view, the current drawn by a device is dependant on voltage and resistance. You feed a given resistance with volts and it draws current. You cant feed current.

Your ECU could vary the voltage, but I very much doubt it.

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wether you power it through the ECU or earth it through the ECU makes no difference. The transistor still needs to handle the current flow of the solenoid!

It does make a difference to back EMF though.

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Granted but you can restrict current flow, by increasing the coil resistance??

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


AlexF2003

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well you could but pluse width modulation will also do that....

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As said - it's either on, or it's off. Adding a resistor will just make it not operate. In theory it will operate slower at a definate point between not working or working - but this gains you nothing?

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AlexF2003

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get a scope and see what your injector is doing *wink*

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