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Mitsi Evo 7, 911, Cossie. & all the chavs ...... won no problem

daft question but......... dont overlook the rocker gasket lads






apbellamy

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RTV everywhere, but the oil is now staying inside the engine.

oops...



The result of 20PSI (new BCA needle fitted and fueling still good) and pop, of comes the boost hose :$

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


Brett

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you guys still on for the rr in the morning?

Yes i moved to the darkside *happy*

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John

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Yes!

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


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Which rolling road are you using?


Tom Fenton
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Have you got a proper Jubillee clip driver, you can get the clamps much much tighter with one of these compared to a screwdriver, and the flexi shaft ones really are a godsend for awkward clips to get at (like that one looks to be).


On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:


On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


John

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We've done it up using a 7mm socket on a 1/4 drive ratched and have gone as tight as we dare.

To be honest I think the ID of the silicone hose is too large.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


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Chester


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On 29th Jun, 2011 Tom Fenton said:
Have you got a proper Jubillee clip driver, you can get the clamps much much tighter with one of these compared to a screwdriver, and the flexi shaft ones really are a godsend for awkward clips to get at (like that one looks to be).

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!


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clean up the housing and hose with brake cleaner, 3-4 dots of superglue on the housing, clamp the hose down, jobs a goodun :) it will come off in future, but gives that extra bit of protection for justnow, either that or procure a few mikalor clamps.

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.


John

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Future mods list is growing.

Next time we have the engine out a cheeky little tickle with the grinder on the subframe may be in order.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


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On 29th Jun, 2011 BENROSS said:
daft question but......... dont overlook the rocker gasket lads


Apparently not Steve

On 27th Jun, 2011 John said:

On 27th Jun, 2011 Sprocket said:


rocker cover?
nah sprocket its down the back. still think its issues with the oil drain.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 29th Jun, 2011 Tom Fenton said:
Have you got a proper Jubillee clip driver, you can get the clamps much much tighter with one of these compared to a screwdriver, and the flexi shaft ones really are a godsend for awkward clips to get at (like that one looks to be).


there is a proper tool ? thats probably why i keep breaking the feckers *happy*

Yes i moved to the darkside *happy*

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apbellamy

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On 29th Jun, 2011 Star Mag said:
Which rolling road are you using?

John Sleath.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


Tom Fenton
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Who? Where is this?


On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:


On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


apbellamy

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John Sleath builds 8 second road legal drag cars. Knows turboed engines well and has years of experience with carbs.

http://www.john-sleath.com/

He's near the golf course between Conisborugh and Braithwell.

Have a search Tom *wink*

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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Good luck at the rollers them chaps.


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hope it goes well guys

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Conisbrough? Let me know how it goes andy its 5mins from my house, saves the drive to bogg brothers?

Audi s4 b5 - 470bhp & 486ft lbs

On 15th Mar, 2012 wil_h said:

Yes, Carl says he gets requests for rimming all the time

On 30th Apr, 2012 Brett said:
yeah stick the bit in and give it a wobble *wink*


apbellamy

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174 Bananas, 178 Curly Wurlies @ 17psi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkF4ysjnNcs

The redish line is 17ish psi on the bleed valve, the green is actuator boost (7psi)

Power and torque at the flywheel:



Power and boost at the wheels:



Power and AFR:






That'll do. Pig.

Edited by apbellamy on 30th Jun, 2011.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


Rob Gavin

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well done guys - looking forward to seeing this on the strip now


Tom Fenton
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What was your experience like at this rolling road then? From the website it looks a decent outfit. Did he do much setting up of the ignition map? How much did you pay?


On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:


On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


bennyy

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Not a bad result at all lads congrats, I may use these when I get mine on the rollers again.

Audi s4 b5 - 470bhp & 486ft lbs

On 15th Mar, 2012 wil_h said:

Yes, Carl says he gets requests for rimming all the time

On 30th Apr, 2012 Brett said:
yeah stick the bit in and give it a wobble *wink*


apbellamy

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Very happy with the figures. I would describe them as real world and where repeatable on several runs. In his words, it's the best rolling road available. Often people are disappointed with the figures as they don't tally with other peoples pub talk figures. I reckon we would be closer to 200 bananas on some other rollers.

The end result is good power (it's scary to drive on full chat) with a a safe ignition map and plenty of fuel all the way up. I'll be going back with my mini if I ever finish it.

On 30th Jun, 2011 Tom Fenton said:
What was your experience like at this rolling road then? From the website it looks a decent outfit. Did he do much setting up of the ignition map? How much did you pay?

He didn't need to do too much to the ignition map, as TM had already helped with that and it was pretty close already. The fueling was pretty good too. No sign of detonation. He spent a lot of time doing runs with gradually more boost listening for det before we started any changes.

He charges £70 per hour + vat.

He also had a couple of familiar drag cars in


On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


bennyy

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What does the gt17 feel like compared to t3 on similar boost levels? And what sort of power would it make compared to a t3 on similar boost levels?

Audi s4 b5 - 470bhp & 486ft lbs

On 15th Mar, 2012 wil_h said:

Yes, Carl says he gets requests for rimming all the time

On 30th Apr, 2012 Brett said:
yeah stick the bit in and give it a wobble *wink*


John

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On 30th Jun, 2011 Tom Fenton said:
What was your experience like at this rolling road then? From the website it looks a decent outfit. Did he do much setting up of the ignition map? How much did you pay?


My opinion reflects Andy's. John asked about the car what we were looking for, what we had done, looked at our existing map (basically the one you helped me devise the other day) before starting.

He strapped the car down very thoroughly. Did a couple of runs at actuator pressure ~6psi and basically told us what we already knew that it was VERY rich, however he expected this to improve as the boost was increased.

We then followed with a couple of runs with 1/4 turn on the bleed valve giving us ~10psi and the fuelling looking slightly better.

Another 1/4 turn and a couple of runs gave us ~13psi again showing an improvement in fuelling and another healthy increase in power.

After reviewing the data from the previous runs finding the fuelling still quite rich and the fact he didn't detect any signs of detonation (he was wearing det cans throughout the process) we decided to go for more boost and took the bleed out another 1/4 turn. The runs gave us a momentary spike to 16.5psi and tailed off to 15.5psi as the rpm increased.

After another quick review we decided to go for our target boost pressure and took the bleed out one final 1/4 turn. Couple of runs and a nice stable 17psi showed pretty much our final power figure.

John had been watching the ignition map on the MJ and suggested that we try a little more advance at the top end of the map, this smoothed out a dip in the power and delivered a couple of extra nana's. He also made a couple of tweaks in the mid/top are of the ignition map further smoothing the delivery.

We reviewed the data one final time and decided to call it a day at that. John was pleased with the fuelling (standard BCA needle) and mentioned that he believes we have a pretty decent safety margin at the top end as it richens up a touch. His suspicion was that and extra few ponies would be on the cards if we were to lean it out slightly. (he also suggested would could perhaps increase the boost slightly more without encountering any fuelling issues)

Edited by John on 30th Jun, 2011.

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