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 202 Posts Member #: 10595 Senior Member Pembrokeshire,Wales. |
20th Dec, 2013 at 08:20:04pm
Both subframes already have loads of holes drilled mate, they have been done similar to miglia spec.
On 20th Dec, 2013 Brett said:
i have seen 5 or 6 lighted front subframes and i guess you could get a good few kg out of yours On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said:
Only a few little holes down the side mate!Jesus..anyone would think its a death trap, I'm not doing any track days till I have a custom cage build by endaf, so this year will just be show&shine and maybe concourse, What would you do too save more weight then?lee. et more speed 1293 turbo mini-180bhp 171tourque@15psi
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202 Posts Member #: 10595 Senior Member Pembrokeshire,Wales. |
20th Dec, 2013 at 08:21:43pm
My weight 465 with no fuel at all mate, what scales would you recommend? Cheers mate
On 20th Dec, 2013 1380rich said:
Get it on some propr scales :) had mine weighed on brake rollers and it said it was 435 .. Actually weighs 485 with fuel. Seen your car at Combe looked tidy Cheers, Rich more speed 1293 turbo mini-180bhp 171tourque@15psi
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 5417 Posts Member #: 6181 Double hard bastard brookwood woking |
20th Dec, 2013 at 08:22:18pm
Well they way I look at this stuff is, if I was upside down on its roof doing 60mph with my ass doing 5p - 50p I want it to be as safe as I can make it!! So drilling the thing that's been made to be strong and help in such an occasion. As if the cage went tits up on you it would be like having some lose scaffolding pipes in there!!
On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said:
Only a few little holes down the side mate!Jesus..anyone would think its a death trap, I'm not doing any track days till I have a custom cage build by endaf, so this year will just be show&shine and maybe concourse, What would you do too save more weight then?lee. On 20th Dec, 2013 madmk1 said: I remember seeing the updates that endaf was posting on his FB as he was working on the car. I get what your saying about the plastic doors, but your cage is the same as mine. Apart from I have not compromised the safety of the cage by drilling it! WTF that's the maddest thing I have ever seen on here! When you said you have run out of ideas, I can see loads of weight you could lose out of that car! On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said: Hi mate, I know how much you have done I have read your build thread all 63pages, my car is not just a quick build either it's taken 3in a half years, I had it weighed at my local weight bridge so not sure if that exact to the kg but 465kg is what I got! Not a full cage either, but if you compare your steel to carbon fibre mate there is a massive difference, for example I have saved 30kg with carbon doors with have no locks, doors cards or even handles, with force racing hinges, also I have even drilled holes in the cage before fitting!haha I know the whole point of a cage is for safety but I just wanted to get as light as I possible could! Cheers On 20th Dec, 2013 madmk1 said: On 16th Dec, 2013 F415dda said:
She currently weights 465kg and I'm starting too run out of ideas:( Hi mate, I hope I don't sound like a dick in this post. But how have you got it so light? As you still have both sub frames? Also a full cage? And I am sure them wheels are not that light? The Eng still looks full fat under there. Have you had it on some real scales ? ? Now before you think I am having a go, I have been looking at weight saving so much over the last 2years! And you only have to look at my build page to see how much work I have done to get mine down. Thanks simon. I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf
On 1st Nov, 2007 Ben H said:
There is no such thing as 'insignificant weight saving', it all adds up. |
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 412 Posts Member #: 9766 Senior Member Warwickshire |
20th Dec, 2013 at 08:24:41pm
I had mine done by a friend who races autograss and he did it when it was corner weighted. Endaf could weigh it I'm sure? Avon 2010 class c 3rd
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202 Posts Member #: 10595 Senior Member Pembrokeshire,Wales. |
20th Dec, 2013 at 08:25:51pm
Thats exactly why I am having a custom cage! For extra safety, also I won the first concourse outing at mini fair 2! So she can't be that bad!! Yeah all been lightened with kad radius arms and minifins.
On 20th Dec, 2013 madmk1 said:
Well they way I look at this stuff is, if I was upside down on its roof doing 60mph with my ass doing 5p - 50p I want it to be as safe as I can make it!! So drilling the thing that's been made to be strong and help in such an occasion. As if the cage went tits up on you it would be like having some lose scaffolding pipes in there!! I some how don't think your car will do very well in concourse mate, as I don't think rover ever made a car that looks like yours lol. You could lose lots from that subframe, you still have a rear subby??? Simon. On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said: Only a few little holes down the side mate!Jesus..anyone would think its a death trap, I'm not doing any track days till I have a custom cage build by endaf, so this year will just be show&shine and maybe concourse, What would you do too save more weight then?lee. On 20th Dec, 2013 madmk1 said: I remember seeing the updates that endaf was posting on his FB as he was working on the car. I get what your saying about the plastic doors, but your cage is the same as mine. Apart from I have not compromised the safety of the cage by drilling it! WTF that's the maddest thing I have ever seen on here! When you said you have run out of ideas, I can see loads of weight you could lose out of that car! On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said: Hi mate, I know how much you have done I have read your build thread all 63pages, my car is not just a quick build either it's taken 3in a half years, I had it weighed at my local weight bridge so not sure if that exact to the kg but 465kg is what I got! Not a full cage either, but if you compare your steel to carbon fibre mate there is a massive difference, for example I have saved 30kg with carbon doors with have no locks, doors cards or even handles, with force racing hinges, also I have even drilled holes in the cage before fitting!haha I know the whole point of a cage is for safety but I just wanted to get as light as I possible could! Cheers On 20th Dec, 2013 madmk1 said: On 16th Dec, 2013 F415dda said:
She currently weights 465kg and I'm starting too run out of ideas:( Hi mate, I hope I don't sound like a dick in this post. But how have you got it so light? As you still have both sub frames? Also a full cage? And I am sure them wheels are not that light? The Eng still looks full fat under there. Have you had it on some real scales ? ? Now before you think I am having a go, I have been looking at weight saving so much over the last 2years! And you only have to look at my build page to see how much work I have done to get mine down. Thanks simon. more speed 1293 turbo mini-180bhp 171tourque@15psi
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202 Posts Member #: 10595 Senior Member Pembrokeshire,Wales. |
20th Dec, 2013 at 08:27:05pm
I will have too ask him to weight it when I'm up there next, cheers
On 20th Dec, 2013 1380rich said:
I had mine done by a friend who races autograss and he did it when it was corner weighted. Endaf could weigh it I'm sure? more speed 1293 turbo mini-180bhp 171tourque@15psi
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 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
20th Dec, 2013 at 08:29:44pm
On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said:
Both subframes already have loads of holes drilled mate, they have been done similar to miglia spec. thats funny because i swear i have never seen a mig below 660kg.... Yes i moved to the darkside |
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202 Posts Member #: 10595 Senior Member Pembrokeshire,Wales. |
20th Dec, 2013 at 08:34:53pm
The miglias are around that sort of weight yeah, but what's that got too do with mine?there steel?haha
On 20th Dec, 2013 Brett said:
On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said:
Both subframes already have loads of holes drilled mate, they have been done similar to miglia spec. thats funny because i swear i have never seen a mig below 660kg.... Edited by F415dda on 20th Dec, 2013. more speed 1293 turbo mini-180bhp 171tourque@15psi
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5417 Posts Member #: 6181 Double hard bastard brookwood woking |
20th Dec, 2013 at 08:37:26pm
On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said:
The miglias are around that sort of weight yeah, but what's that got too do with mine?there steel?haha On 20th Dec, 2013 Brett said: On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said:
Both subframes already have loads of holes drilled mate, they have been done similar to miglia spec. thats funny because i swear i have never seen a mig below 660kg.... I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf
On 1st Nov, 2007 Ben H said:
There is no such thing as 'insignificant weight saving', it all adds up. |
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9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
20th Dec, 2013 at 08:44:09pm
nothing tbh mate, where all chomping on the bit here because we have been on weight loss missions since TM began and you rock up with a beauty 100kg lighter than the rest of us were all dying to find out what were missing
On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said:
The miglias are around that sort of weight yeah, but what's that got too do with mine?there steel?haha On 20th Dec, 2013 Brett said: On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said:
Both subframes already have loads of holes drilled mate, they have been done similar to miglia spec. thats funny because i swear i have never seen a mig below 660kg.... Yes i moved to the darkside |
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202 Posts Member #: 10595 Senior Member Pembrokeshire,Wales. |
20th Dec, 2013 at 08:58:31pm
On 20th Dec, 2013 Brett said:
nothing tbh mate, where all chomping on the bit here because we have been on weight loss missions since TM began and you rock up with a beauty 100kg lighter than the rest of us were all dying to find out what were missing i like the fact you have got 465 ish kg on what looks to me ( an obviously un trained eye) to have more metal in it that a stock frame i cant grumble tbh mate my front subframe weights 26kg and thats without suspension my stock one was 16kg dry so i gained 10kg but shit the bed the stiffness is epic ( and im non a series this time round) On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said: The miglias are around that sort of weight yeah, but what's that got too do with mine?there steel?haha On 20th Dec, 2013 Brett said: On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said:
Both subframes already have loads of holes drilled mate, they have been done similar to miglia spec. thats funny because i swear i have never seen a mig below 660kg.... more speed 1293 turbo mini-180bhp 171tourque@15psi
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Forum Mod  5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
20th Dec, 2013 at 09:13:32pm
So, are you going for the driveshafts then? I seriously doubt it! |
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202 Posts Member #: 10595 Senior Member Pembrokeshire,Wales. |
20th Dec, 2013 at 09:16:24pm
Yess mate after Christmas, also do you know if rear calipers setup would be lighter that the standard drums with minifins?cheers lee
On 20th Dec, 2013 paul wiginton said:
So, are you going for the driveshafts then? more speed 1293 turbo mini-180bhp 171tourque@15psi
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Forum Mod 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
20th Dec, 2013 at 09:20:16pm
With one calliper on each side - yes but it wont go through an MOT unless its pre 1968. You would need 2 callipers each side (one for handbrake) and it may just weigh the same then
I seriously doubt it! |
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4018 Posts Member #: 1757 Back to Fucking Tool status Swindon |
20th Dec, 2013 at 09:26:44pm
http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=363179
Edited by Paul R on 20th Dec, 2013. Drives
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 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
20th Dec, 2013 at 09:44:50pm
On 16th Sep, 2013 Sprocket said:
If you're looking at competing with the likes of the DON or Paul Wigintons car you'll need to do more than drill a few holes in the subframs or replace a few bolts It would appear that those who truely can get the weight of their car down low are wiser than they let on. If you are struggling now, you need to start think outside of the box 
Edited by Sprocket on 20th Dec, 2013. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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202 Posts Member #: 10595 Senior Member Pembrokeshire,Wales. |
20th Dec, 2013 at 09:47:16pm
Hahaha, yes mate!
On 20th Dec, 2013 Sprocket said:
On 16th Sep, 2013 Sprocket said:
If you're looking at competing with the likes of the DON or Paul Wigintons car you'll need to do more than drill a few holes in the subframs or replace a few bolts It would appear that those who truely can get the weight of their car down low are wiser than they let on. If you are struggling now, you need to start think outside of the box more speed 1293 turbo mini-180bhp 171tourque@15psi
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Forum Mod 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
20th Dec, 2013 at 09:56:59pm
On 20th Dec, 2013 paul wiginton said:
With one calliper on each side - yes but it wont go through an MOT unless its pre 1968. You would need 2 callipers each side (one for handbrake) and it may just weigh the same then I forgot about KAD discs I seriously doubt it! |
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Forum Mod 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
20th Dec, 2013 at 10:01:50pm
On 20th Dec, 2013 Sprocket said:
On 16th Sep, 2013 Sprocket said:
If you're looking at competing with the likes of the DON or Paul Wigintons car you'll need to do more than drill a few holes in the subframs or replace a few bolts It would appear that those who truely can get the weight of their car down low are wiser than they let on. If you are struggling now, you need to start think outside of the box Well Ive worked very hard over the last 10ish years to ensure my weight loss isnt really visible, you dont see holes drilled in everything and I like to keep my stainless bumpers and window surrounds. Its just every component is either slightly smaller than it was or made from something different. Sprocket is right - you do have to think outside the box and spend money in the right places. My last lightweight purchase cost me £80odd and gave me around 1gram to the £ in weight loss I seriously doubt it! |
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 334 Posts Member #: 6647 Avon Park Class B winner 2010/11 milton keynes |
20th Dec, 2013 at 10:09:50pm
Oi what's wrong with drilling holes |
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Forum Mod 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
20th Dec, 2013 at 10:12:32pm
Nothing Chris as you well know, mine just arent visible I seriously doubt it! |
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9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
20th Dec, 2013 at 10:17:59pm
On 20th Dec, 2013 F415dda said:
will be getting it weighted at endaf's after Christmas so we will see pal..will post up a pictures too. yes would love to see them, not that im doubting anyones work mate but unless witchcraft has been employed im gonna set my stakes at 565kg Yes i moved to the darkside |
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4018 Posts Member #: 1757 Back to Fucking Tool status Swindon |
20th Dec, 2013 at 10:18:48pm
Hey just think you could drill and flare behind the front xmember and seal it off, less weight and more strength, same with sills, around the boot possibilities are endless! Drives
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 6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
20th Dec, 2013 at 10:41:55pm
I know what you've done Dave, you've drilled hundreds of holes and the plated over them so we can't see you devious bastard. lol
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 4890 Posts Member #: 1775 Post Whore Chester |
20th Dec, 2013 at 10:44:39pm
paper mache... Edited by gr4h4m on 20th Dec, 2013. I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
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