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Minirotty

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On 15th Dec, 2013 cossierick said:
I think the main lesson to learn here is safety and strength.

As its for a 9yr old the first port of call is safety, now all of the pattern crap is made from piss poor steel. the inner wing/ sill area is a strong place originally.

Just a thought !!

rick


The way I have attached the sill to this car does not compromise safety, you have yet to see the cage going into this car also, safety aspect of the car will increase 100 fold once the cage is in.

On 15th Dec, 2013 Brett said:


On 14th Dec, 2013 Minirotty said:
There really are some first class idiots on this board.

Yes
On 14th Dec, 2013 Minirotty said:

It's a learner track car for a 9 year old!

Couldn't be bothered?

I chose not to, l looked and removed all of original sill/outer skin.

Theres no more skins on this floor pan now than there would be on a standard!

If all you want to do is post smart arse comments in a tread, go and do it some where else.

I'll think twice before I update again, as I've never been on a forum that hold so many portentous users.


i cannot believe a new member can come on here and talk to respected members like shit and get away with it for so long

you pissed me off right at the beginning when you started with the blunt attitude and it went on and on to the point that out of respect i did not post anything in this thread because im a firm believer that if you have nothing nice to say then dont fucking say it
every one has there opinion and are free to speak it openly, weather you listen to it, take offence by it or be a cock about it is down to you personally
you say your learning both with the car and with welding, well fucking listen to advice given, people on this forum have been there done it and willingly tell about the problems they had
members freely came you you with friendly advice and you kick off??? dude all there trying to do is help that is what we are all about that what has brought this forum forward so far,
the only smart arse comment in the thread span from you and then peoples reactions to you

serious reality check over


Where have I once stated I am learning about cars? Just welding pal...

You believe people here have the right because they are long standing members to be patronising and antagonising to a new member? and you wonder why I reply with an abrasive tone!

Respect? it is earned fella, having 10K posts doesn't invalidate you to having your reply / replies addressed by new members.

I maybe new to this board but I am far from new to boards in general, thus having the confidence to tell some one to jog on from my threads if they reply in the fashion I have just identified.



On 15th Dec, 2013 Carlzilla said:
He would have caged up the car and he does know what he is doing, I don't see why people flame others so much over an oversill. Yes it's not an original replication, but how many cars on the road have around 3 crusty sills covered by another oversill. I don't see a problem in using an oversill IN PLACE of an original sill. If the person who fits them wants to replace them again sooner rather than later then so be it.



The only bloke on this forum that talks sense!

Well done Carl, on the fact you have managed to continually cohabitate on this forum for so long with a bunch of prats, your tolerance to idiots if far more than mine.

Have fun.


Brett

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On 15th Dec, 2013 Minirotty said:


You believe people here have the right because they are long standing members to be patronising and antagonising to a new member? and you wonder why I reply with an abrasive tone!
but no one has been like that, like i said its there replys to your initial 'abrasive tone'

On 15th Dec, 2013 Minirotty said:


Respect? it is earned fella, having 10K posts doesn't invalidate you to having your reply / replies addressed by new members.

respect is earnt giving half members an 'abrasive' brush off because you dont like there input is not going to get you the respect of the rest of the members



On 15th Dec, 2013 Minirotty said:


I maybe new to this board but I am far from new to boards in general, thus having the confidence to tell some one to jog on from my threads if they reply in the fashion I have just identified.


so your not new to forums? fair deal but you have obviously not learned how to be nice to people in general

Yes i moved to the darkside *happy*

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Shauna

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Ladies cmon, put your handbag down and leave the man go post on another forum as he pleases.

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Rod S

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It's interesting, when you search on other forums against user names on here, what you come up with.

Obviously a total co-incidence even if one of the other forums was another mini one.....

But, back to the point....

The OP, when saying there is no difference in what he has done to the original design, seems to be basing it on this



It seems he has used the lower edge of the cover sill to replace the main floor in that area - but only at the back (and not all the way to the back).

No photos of the new inner sill so part cover sill, part floor but no-where have the drainage slots been openned.

And is a cover sill really the same thickness as the original floor ???

And poorly welded (by his own admission).

I don't think the water/moisture traps are really the issue here, rather more the structural integrity of such a bodge.

But he knows best as he says his cage adds 100 time the strength......

Oh dear.........

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???


Sam

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You seem to have a serious attitude problem. We are only trying to help you. We come off in such a way as a direct result of your attitude.

Many of us come from engineering backgrounds. We apply the tried and tested principles, because simply, they work!

So benefits of fitting the sills as you have.

+less work required, saving 10 mins each side.

Drawbacks of your method.

-more weight
-less torsional rigidity.
-not as strong a shape resulting in more deflection upon force applied.


Each to their own.

On 19th Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
OMG Robert that's a big one


Sam

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Bloody hell, I skipped past and didn't even notice this! Christ!

On 15th Dec, 2013 Rod S said:
It's interesting, when you search on other forums against user names on here, what you come up with.

Obviously a total co-incidence even if one of the other forums was another mini one.....

But, back to the point....

The OP, when saying there is no difference in what he has done to the original design, seems to be basing it on this



It seems he has used the lower edge of the cover sill to replace the main floor in that area - but only at the back (and not all the way to the back).

No photos of the new inner sill so part cover sill, part floor but no-where have the drainage slots been openned.

And is a cover sill really the same thickness as the original floor ???

And poorly welded (by his own admission).

I don't think the water/moisture traps are really the issue here, rather more the structural integrity of such a bodge.

But he knows best as he says his cage adds 100 time the strength......

Oh dear.........

On 19th Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
OMG Robert that's a big one


Carlzilla

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I don't think the inner sill has been welded back in yet guys, look at the other pictures where the opposite side has been replaced and the side you are talking about has been cut out ready for a fresh piece. I'm not arguing with you here but it's not finished yet....

On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper

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Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!!

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Sam

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Yeh you're right. Hes still yet to chop it off. shorten it by four inches. Weld the inner sill in then weld the now shorter outer sill on top!

On 19th Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
OMG Robert that's a big one


tadge44

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I can,t comment on the technical aspects of what is being discussed here, but his welding looks pretty good to me - and he is saving another Mini - is that not enough?


Rod S

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On 15th Dec, 2013 tadge44 said:
- and he is saving another Mini - is that not enough?

Not sure David.
People who respond like the way he has to constructive critisicm are probably just trying to save their ego rather than saving another Mini.

I certainly wouldn't rebuild a shell like that and drive it around a track, let alone put a 8/9 year old child in it, and say it's OK because the roll cage (yet to be seen) makes it 100 times better.

But that's just my opinion.

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Amp

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On 15th Dec, 2013 Brett said:


you say your learning both with the car and with welding, well fucking listen to advice given,



Blunt *happy*

On 15th Dec, 2013 Minirotty said:



You believe people here have the right because they are long standing members to be patronising and antagonising to a new member? and you wonder why I reply with an abrasive tone!



To be fair, it's not just new members that get abuse! The long standing members often criticise each other, they just don't throw their toys out of the pram about it.

There is often interesting debates on here, far above the intellect of many people (myself included), if everyone had your attitude towards it then this forum would not be what it is. It makes the search feature invaluable.

It's constructive criticism, not patronising or antagonistic, getting "abrasive" about it helps nobody.


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I think this has got a bit out of hand here and Im tempted to lock the thread but wont on the off chance it can get back on track.

Not wishing to fuel the fire though I need to point out that those non genuine sills are not strong enough to replace part of the floor as you have done. They are made of poor quality steel and are also too thin. Take this from me - Ive been welding, panel beating and restoring Aston Martins for 24 years professionally and Minis for 26 years as a hobby

I seriously doubt it!


Paul R

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i hope the project continues and you stay on tm.

unfortunately sometimes things can get out of hand look under my profile pic for instance.

stick to it and go with peoples advice, it improved my welding 10x i was welding to much on top, not quite strong enough but now they are much better.
i did get flamed, but with the experience that a lot of people have its not really meant in a bad way.

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