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danw

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so how does your 310 act? so you pull off normally...do you bog down lots or? sorry for the idiotic questions


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Rev to about 3,000rpm and pull off as normal. it drives through town at 30mph in second gear, 40mph in 3rd gear and will even pull full throttle from 3,200. This is with a 3.9 diff

Paul

I seriously doubt it!


danw

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so what will a 3.6/3.7 do?


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On 29th Apr, 2010 paul wiginton said:



On 28th Apr, 2010 wil_h said:



On 28th Apr, 2010 paul wiginton said:
I cant believe what pussys everyone seems to be when choosing a cam.


Meeeaaawwww!


Didnt mean to sound an arrogant twat by that but, I built my Sprint originally with a 296sp, it weighed 650kg and showed 134 bananas on Swiftys dyno bench. My wife drove it on the London to Brighton run from Crystal Palace, through London traffic while she was 7 months pregnant - shows how easy a 296 is to drive.

Ive since fitted a 310sp and a Salisbury diff set at 120lb, the 296 showed 140 Baldwin bananas, the 310 shows 155 Baldwins, she has driven it to work and to Tesco for shopping no trouble.

Between Gavin and I we have run nearly every cam out there and we kept putting off fitting a 310 because everyone said theyre undriveable - Bullshit! I say, if there was a cam that would give me more power and more undriveability I would fit it and still gladly drive it on the road.

This thread is about a cam choice for a trackday car, if you fit a little cam - 286 or less you will regret it as soon as anything else powers past you, then spend loads of money changing it for a proper cam.

Paul


I was purely making a pun on pussy. Years ago I was takled out of putting a 276 in a 998, plumped for the 266, waste of time and money. It was rubbish and I swaped it for a 276 within 6 months.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

www.twin-turbo.co.uk

On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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met a guy at the weekend with the bright green drag mini.. sad his wife went to school with you and Ben? I think I have it the right way around..

He running a daft cam (286 I think) a 1275 head (Alloy) and a 45 on a 998 over bore 10something and made 66 at the wheels at our rolling road day.. great and very light car, yet everyone would say you shouldn't but it went very well..

Edited by gr4h4m on 29th Apr, 2010.

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VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!


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Graham Moore. Ben shagged his wife (before she was married of course!!!)

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

www.twin-turbo.co.uk

On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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hahahaha brilliant

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Crap, why did I bought a 256 for my 998 soon to be turboed !!!!?

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On 23rd Jun, 2008 paul wiginton said:

They said "That sounds rough mate." I said "Cheers it cost me a fortune to make it sound like that!"


GaryOS

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Turbo cam choice is a whole different matter though

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse *happy*


On 30th Apr, 2010 Rod S said:
Gary's description is best


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yep, a 256 is probably a very good cam for a turboed 998.

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Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

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On 29th Apr, 2010 wil_h said:
Graham Moore. Ben shagged his wife (before she was married of course!!!)


Brilliant!!!

If he ever googles his name that will pop up in the results, poor guy


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Extreme Wil

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!


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On 29th Apr, 2010 Nic said:



On 29th Apr, 2010 wil_h said:
Graham Moore. Ben shagged his wife (before she was married of course!!!)


Brilliant!!!

If he ever googles his name that will pop up in the results, poor guy

yup ,thats pretty gross !

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


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On 29th Apr, 2010 paul wiginton said:
Rev to about 3,000rpm and pull off as normal. it drives through town at 30mph in second gear, 40mph in 3rd gear and will even pull full throttle from 3,200. This is with a 3.9 diff

Paul


For me this is totally out of the question in a road car. Under absolutely no circumstances would I consider this an option for a road car..

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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On 29th Apr, 2010 wil_h said:
Graham Moore. Ben shagged his wife (before she was married of course!!!)


BAAA HAA HAA HAA


This seemed appropriate-


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On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
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Don't worry, Graham is fully aware of his wife's past.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

www.twin-turbo.co.uk

On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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Lads this man talks sence listen to him !
Im not denying what your are saying Paul i have never liked the likes of 266 ect BUT,

I have acutly run back to back Testes with the 286,296 and the kent 310 and I have always with out exception made more HP and Torque Over all with cams of less than 300 druation.

I'm not nocking you HP claims Ider but what I will say is of all the engines I have built some had Full race Swifty heads I have never seen over 140 hp from N/A 5 port A series engine no matter what cam I have used Maby Im missing somthing but I genuinely dont think its there to be made with out boost or gas.


On 30th Apr, 2010 Vegard said:



On 29th Apr, 2010 paul wiginton said:
Rev to about 3,000rpm and pull off as normal. it drives through town at 30mph in second gear, 40mph in 3rd gear and will even pull full throttle from 3,200. This is with a 3.9 diff

Paul


For me this is totally out of the question in a road car. Under absolutely no circumstances would I consider this an option for a road car..

On 17th Feb, 2009 Rob H said:

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Si P

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I've re built mine using a 296 ( 1.5 rockers ) but have re worked the head new exhaust and carb set-up, 3.9FD car weight about 550kg ish . and it drives as I expected GREAT....!

Its not a road car but it can be use as one. Nice clutch and the girlfriend has even driven it.

For the next build I'm have my own spec 649 old style cam ground for it. But then again the engine + gearbox spec will be designed to work with it.

Its not just about bolting a cam. But you lot know that.

And this is just the baby test engine.. *wink*

Si

On 29th Apr, 2010 paul wiginton said:



On 28th Apr, 2010 wil_h said:



On 28th Apr, 2010 paul wiginton said:
I cant believe what pussys everyone seems to be when choosing a cam.


Meeeaaawwww!


Didnt mean to sound an arrogant twat by that but, I built my Sprint originally with a 296sp, it weighed 650kg and showed 134 bananas on Swiftys dyno bench. My wife drove it on the London to Brighton run from Crystal Palace, through London traffic while she was 7 months pregnant - shows how easy a 296 is to drive.

Ive since fitted a 310sp and a Salisbury diff set at 120lb, the 296 showed 140 Baldwin bananas, the 310 shows 155 Baldwins, she has driven it to work and to Tesco for shopping no trouble.

Between Gavin and I we have run nearly every cam out there and we kept putting off fitting a 310 because everyone said theyre undriveable - Bullshit! I say, if there was a cam that would give me more power and more undriveability I would fit it and still gladly drive it on the road.

This thread is about a cam choice for a trackday car, if you fit a little cam - 286 or less you will regret it as soon as anything else powers past you, then spend loads of money changing it for a proper cam.

Paul

Edited by Si P on 30th Apr, 2010.

I drill holes in everything..!


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Paul, Ill never say those banana figures are gospel, hence calling them Swifty bananas and Baldwin bananas - people can make of them what they want

Vegard, it really is no harder to drive than my standard 998, in some ways, oddly, its actually easier

Edited by paul wiginton on 30th Apr, 2010.

I seriously doubt it!


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Is it because you car is so light compared to a std mini.. so pulling off is easier...

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!


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On 30th Apr, 2010 gr4h4m said:
Is it because you car is so light compared to a std mini.. so pulling off is easier...


No, Im taliking about when it still weighed 650+ kg

I seriously doubt it!


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Yea erm.. I just took my short stroker out after having it off the road for 6 months, with webers and bp300. Seriously, once you've got on the power and the rev counters spinning round the guage, past 8000rpm like it doesn't exist, you'll realise exactly why you put up with the minor inconvenience in traffic. Truly awsome *happy*


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in case ithelps , i worked out a totally unverified baldwin bhp formula ...

baldwin bhp - 25%+losses (about 18bhp@90mph)=real bhp .

so 155bhp would be 155-38.75+18=134.25bhp.

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


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Has anyone tried the VP8C on a turbo car?

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