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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
20th Sep, 2009 at 05:27:12pm
an you cram the injector right up the hole so it is vertually at the other end? On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
20th Sep, 2009 at 05:33:28pm
What angles have you actually achieved in, say, degrees off the horizontal (ie, relative to the inlet tract/port in the head) ???
Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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4314 Posts Member #: 700 Formerly British Open Classic The West Country |
20th Sep, 2009 at 05:39:06pm
Looking good, got to admit I enjoy machining.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel said:
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
20th Sep, 2009 at 05:45:38pm
On 20th Sep, 2009 mini13 said:
an you cram the injector right up the hole so it is vertually at the other end? They are going to be quite close together, plus they will start to obstruct the port, plus the injector body gets a bit wider. Could be an option for v2. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
20th Sep, 2009 at 05:49:22pm
Rod, the design is exactly as drawn^^^^^
Edited by Paul S on 20th Sep, 2009. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
20th Sep, 2009 at 06:08:49pm
On 20th Sep, 2009 Paul S said:
Rod, the design is exactly as drawn^^^^^ But the drawing had no measurements on it and I wasn't going to print it off and put a protractor on it..... :) Two are angled much better than mine and the third one only slightly worse... But at least you get two straight fuel rails with your narrow bodied injectors whereas I have to deal with multiple angles Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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4314 Posts Member #: 700 Formerly British Open Classic The West Country |
20th Sep, 2009 at 06:22:42pm
Blooming heck they're skinny, where did you find them? Isambard Kingdom Brunel said:
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
20th Sep, 2009 at 06:27:08pm
On 20th Sep, 2009 Rob H said:
Blooming heck they're skinny, where did you find them? The ones pictured above are 600cc/min. The paired ones are going to be 850c/min from the states. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-Siemens-M...eQ5fCarQ5fParts Edited by Paul S on 20th Sep, 2009. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
20th Sep, 2009 at 06:56:36pm
The view at the other end:
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
20th Sep, 2009 at 07:27:22pm
On 20th Sep, 2009 Paul S said:
No sure how much I need to remove. I would suggest, just make sure the O ring is still on a parallel bit, ie, don't cut too far back up the injector hole to compromise the O ring, especially as the bit you will want to cut away is closest to the O ring. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
20th Sep, 2009 at 07:38:30pm
what stream are they, cone or pencil? On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
20th Sep, 2009 at 09:22:12pm
They are cone according to rthe fiveomotorsport website.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
26th Sep, 2009 at 01:40:20pm
Finished them off this morning:
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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208 Posts Member #: 438 Senior Member London |
26th Sep, 2009 at 03:04:44pm
I would think a good quality (loctite) high temperature epoxy. |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
26th Sep, 2009 at 04:05:46pm
On 26th Sep, 2009 Andymini said:
I would think a good quality (loctite) high temperature epoxy. Thanks, there are also some good araldite products that may be of use. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
26th Sep, 2009 at 04:54:00pm
what are you going to use the glue for? |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
26th Sep, 2009 at 04:57:03pm
I'm thinking of glueing the runners, 38mm OD aluminium tube, into the injector bosses above.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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152 Posts Member #: 1074 Advanced Member Northamptonshire |
26th Sep, 2009 at 04:59:26pm
I have used this before:
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
26th Sep, 2009 at 04:59:54pm
why not tig?
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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556 Posts Member #: 7029 Post Whore Wickford Essex |
26th Sep, 2009 at 05:03:02pm
2nd stupid question,
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
26th Sep, 2009 at 05:13:23pm
On 26th Sep, 2009 EssexSteve said:
2nd stupid question, why cant you just use 1 big injector to deliver the same amout of fuel as the 3 ? steve Theoretically you could but, 1 - injectors over 1000cc get stupidly expensive, 2 - large injectors give a potentially poor idle (and bad emissions) because of the relationship between open/close time and actual fuel time, and, Jean has re-written the code so we can have staged injection, ie, a small injector for nice idle and low load performance, then bigger injector(s) for full power/boost. Remember, we are talking about a very large injector total size anyway for a small engine because the duty cycle has to be kept so low. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
26th Sep, 2009 at 05:14:40pm
On 26th Sep, 2009 mini13 said:
why not tig? I'm not brave enough. I could easily detroy the boss with my Tig skills on aluminium. I'm familiar with Belzona, but not sure if it would make a good adhesive. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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Site Admin 15300 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
26th Sep, 2009 at 05:20:04pm
Be brave, you'll tig that in there dead easy.
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556 Posts Member #: 7029 Post Whore Wickford Essex |
26th Sep, 2009 at 05:24:53pm
thanks rod, a little clearer now
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
26th Sep, 2009 at 05:36:17pm
My main concern is the effects of temperature and petrol on any adhesive.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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