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1745 Posts Member #: 375 Post Whore Leicestershire |
28th Feb, 2008 at 06:05:25pm
Cheers carl will get on it this weekend, Its alot easier when you have a part number! |
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
28th Feb, 2008 at 06:47:04pm
On mine (which Carl supplied, thanks again!!!) one was very close to bottoming out in the hole even with the washer.
Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
29th Feb, 2008 at 08:45:32pm
On 27th Feb, 2008 johnK said:
Sprock - have you calculated the under head stress/unit area on the cap heads to make sure you aren't going to yield the strap/cap material - may be worth dropping some hard (bmw head washers etc) under the heads - just a thought! JK Valid point, However, if the yield of the bolt is higher that what you require, would you still need to torque it to 75% of its yield? Im only using the cap heads on my engine for the extra two bolts of the four bolt cap, But, i will use hardened washers as you advise. Im still happy that the standard factory bolts are up to the job For the reasons you describe, where do you go with torque settings when going away from the standard bolts. ARP, fine, they clearly provide torque methods and figures. Using Cap heads and torquing to the standard figures, i dodnt see being an issue, as long as the cyclic load does not excede the 'standard' values, which defeats the point of the higher grade bolts, higher torque values obviously required, but then how does that effect the thread engagement in the cast iron? Studs are a whole other ball game from what i have read Edited by Sprocket on 29th Feb, 2008. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
29th Feb, 2008 at 08:48:30pm
i only ever pulled the bolts down to the standard setting, no props, |
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22 Posts Member #: 1909 Member Cracow, PL |
2nd Jan, 2009 at 08:45:06pm
Sorry to dig out the old thread. Does anyone have product number for those longer ARP main bolts?Or is it just 743-3500 and 743-3750 (Cro-Mo 5 pack with washers) ?
Edited by Saint on 2nd Jan, 2009. |
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115 Posts Member #: 2830 Advanced Member Costa del Northern Ireland :) |
5th Jan, 2009 at 11:28:47pm
Well surprise surprise just checked my main strap bolts......... 3 stripe think i will get on the blower tomorrow to rob walker :) That mini is determined to Kill me!!!! |
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152 Posts Member #: 2190 Advanced Member South Carolina, USA |
6th Jan, 2009 at 12:37:28am
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22 Posts Member #: 1909 Member Cracow, PL |
6th Jan, 2009 at 06:54:56pm
My bad.I was thinking of 3.5" under head length for my 1" main strap. I'll just order the five-pack You mentioned.
Edited by Saint on 6th Jan, 2009. |
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184 Posts Member #: 346 Advanced Member Portsmouth |
20th Jan, 2009 at 07:59:31pm
On 6th Jan, 2009 Mikes1098 said:
the ARP part number for: 7/16"-20 x 3.25 12pt is 743-3250 7/16"-20 x 3.50 12pt is 743-3500 7/16"-20 x 3.75 12pt is 743-3750 7/16"-20 x 4.00 12pt is 743-4000 Hi, Im trying to get hold of some ARP bolts for the 4 bolt centre main conversion. I have been in contact with Kent Cams, but they cant find what im after. Im sure there is an ARP 4 bolt mains bolt kit available? Has anyone bought this, and if so would you happen to have a part number to hand?? Also any other info you may have that will put me in the right direction would be much appreciated. Thanks, Chris. 1310cc TWINK - T Conversion |
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1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
20th Jan, 2009 at 08:42:40pm
APT in the US. But remember to state which thread type you have on the outer holes in the block |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
20th Jan, 2009 at 08:44:53pm
There are no "bolt" kits available that I am aware of, having recently tried to source some.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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184 Posts Member #: 346 Advanced Member Portsmouth |
20th Jan, 2009 at 09:34:54pm
Hi,
Edited by Mr Mini on 20th Jan, 2009. 1310cc TWINK - T Conversion |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
20th Jan, 2009 at 10:07:43pm
The MCS 1 is the problem.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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184 Posts Member #: 346 Advanced Member Portsmouth |
21st Jan, 2009 at 08:25:17am
On 20th Jan, 2009 Paul S said:
The MCS 1 is the problem. Your mains should be tapped 7/16" UNF I'm using 2" long 7/16" UNF cap head screws for the outers and 1/3 of MSA54 for the inners. See my post in the "for sale" section. Unfortunatley I've now sold all my spares. Hi Paul, Where did you source the 2' 7/16' UNFs if you dont mind me asking? Also the MSA54 - when you say inners are you referring to the 2 longer bolts for the 4 bolt main? Im getting confused here because in the yellow book it states MSA54s are a mains stud kit - but if your using these wouldnt they be too short for the longer studs of the centre main? Also have you ever used the MSA54 for the 2 outer caps or do you think simply 6 stripe bolts from minispares are adequate for the job? 1310cc TWINK - T Conversion |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
21st Jan, 2009 at 09:10:15am
I got the cap heads from a local fastener place, try Yellow Pages.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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2395 Posts Member #: 229 Gavin@minispares.com kent |
3rd Apr, 2009 at 03:03:07pm
Only just read this thread, will go check our kits now... |
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2395 Posts Member #: 229 Gavin@minispares.com kent |
15th Apr, 2009 at 04:20:17pm
Just an update, i've ammended all our kits to contain the grade 8 bolts now. |
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6274 Posts Member #: 509 Post Whore Isle of Man |
15th Apr, 2009 at 05:37:24pm
good stuff "Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun"
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6745 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
14th May, 2009 at 08:19:55am
just to check gavin ,if i get the ms strap for a 1098 , it comes with grade 8 bolts for sure ?
On 15th Apr, 2009 gavin@minispares.com said:
Just an update, i've ammended all our kits to contain the grade 8 bolts now. Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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2395 Posts Member #: 229 Gavin@minispares.com kent |
14th May, 2009 at 09:43:35am
Yes they will do, however i'm just waiting for the bolts to arrive. |
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6745 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
14th May, 2009 at 04:14:41pm
ahh i see , thanks for the heads up ,any idea on delivery ? Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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2395 Posts Member #: 229 Gavin@minispares.com kent |
14th May, 2009 at 04:32:20pm
PM sent |
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6745 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
24th May, 2009 at 09:02:11am
well i got a strap ,thank you gav ,and i opted to get it without the bolts, cos im impatient and want to get this engine together ,so thought ,hey i'll get some bolts ,no problemo....
Edited by robert on 24th May, 2009. Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
24th May, 2009 at 10:20:10am
robert,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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806 Posts Member #: 989 Post Whore North Yorkshire |
5th Jun, 2010 at 10:43:33pm
I just looked at the centre main strap I got from minispares north a couple of months ago and it has three stripe bolts in the pack. I'll have to give them a call on Monday. |
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