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On 20th Sep, 2010 matty said:
Ive got the same dash and it seemed to fit ok. *oh well* Is the main problem the the gap or the shape?


Both TBH, the overall width is too small so the gap is wrong and the shapes of both ends are very different, only one is correct.

And because of that, the line along the bottom is wrong so it doesn't meet the existing rail all the way along.

It's obviously a very bad copy of one that was well thought through. I saw one on ebay a few weeks ago refering to being the "original" and "ignore cheap copies" but was about £20 more - when I ordered this one the "original" was no longer being sold so I ended up with what is obviously the cheap copy.

Maybe you have the proper one ???

With £20-30 of fibreglass resin and matting I can make it the right shape/width (just as Brett apparently did) but I'm tempted to just send it back as the tosser who sold it lied on eBay about the availability, lied about the dispatch date, and is now sending me emails asking me not to leave negative feedback despite his lies.

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I got mine about 18 months ago from The Stig on TMF - he makes quite a few fibreglass products. On mine, where it meets the windscreen/scuttle, the curve was perfect, and it sits in so far that the outer edges of the dash are inline with the door seal, which also just fits with the dash in place so there are no gaps anywhere.

That being said, mine was £130 when we got it, but I had to make no adjustments whatsoever to make it fit.

On 15th Jul, 2009 fastcarl said:
a breif struggle ensued but Will emerged the victor with a pair of undies in his possesion


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No, but you did chuck your guts up over my front gate the Saturday before! You even managed to get a bit in your arm pit...


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Well, after a bit of cutting/re-shaping along the top and down the sides, the dash doesn't fit too bad.....

It's still all wrong along the bottom so I'll glass that up to the correct shape/line.

Just waiting on a new tub of resin to arrive..... I dug the box out of my shed marked "kit car project" as I knew I had a tin of resin, but it was dated 1998 and was rather solid..... :) (but the glass matting was OK).

So raided a box of my old Dolomite Sprint spares for gauges,


Basically it has independant speedos and Rev counters and the speedo is 140mph and 1000TPM (which makes drive gear selections so much easier) and somewhere (if only I could find it) I ahev the standard Dolomite one which is 120mph and (I hope) also 1000TPM.

I haven't decide whether to use original Smiths gauges for everything else yet - I have quite a few, but not everything - so I tried to fit them all in,


A mixture of CAD and BluePeter.....

EDIT - masking tape is the "shadow" of my chosen steering wheel height/diameter - endEDIT

All the digital stuff (three widebands currently on the parcel shelf) and maybe some others, along with a FM/CD player, will go down here.



I can't progress the wiring as I need to make up shorter cables for the wideband connectors and I'd ordered the wrong ones as spares when I bought the TechEdge stuff so I now have an order in process from Oz - it was 1/4 the price of buying it over here.

Edited by Rod S on 29th Sep, 2010.

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Would it not be better ot have AFR gauges closer to your line of sight?

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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He's gonna drive it with some of those television specs on so he has a heads up AFR *hehe!*

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On 29th Sep, 2010 apbellamy said:
Would it not be better ot have AFR gauges closer to your line of sight?


Most definately yes during initial mapping.

The trouble is there is no way to do it easily because of the shape/size of the display boxes.

So I'll probably tape the original TechEdge displays to the top of the dash with gaffer tape to get the initial mapping done.

After that it will all be streamed to a laptop or SD card anyway so I won't need to look at it much in realtime - I can easily add an audible buzzer to the third wideband (common exhaust after the turbo) for a badly lean mixture during the initial testing.

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On 29th Sep, 2010 John said:
He's gonna drive it with some of those television specs on so he has a heads up AFR *hehe!*


Now there's a thought.......

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In all seriousness and heads up display with the AFR on would be quite good.

You could switch it off for plodding etc and on for mapping/driving like a loon etc.

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Start a new thread. Paul and Rod will sort it out in no time...

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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Not much physical progress - some stationary engine test logs in the EFi section of the forum - as I decided to get one of these and build it in before completing the wiring.....



One of Jean's I/O extender boards.

It talks to the MS2 through CanBus (a simple two wire serial link) and, as it's name implies, adds enhanced Input and Output features.

The first thing I'll be assembling it to do is take the output from my third wideband (which is an Innovate LC-1) to the MS2 digitally, rather than a 0-5V analogue signal which I'm convinced has some ground offset at the moment (it doesn't quite read the average of the two TechEdge inner/outer widebands).

That is just a very basic use initially, I'll start adding the other features later.

Longer term, in conjunction with another PCB Jean is developing, it will allow logging of all the MS2 data and a lot of external data, straight onto an SD card rather than having to have the laptop in the car all the time.

For those going down the MS2, siamese code route (OK, I know it's not many of us yet...), more info here

http://jbperf.com/io_extender/index.html

and here

http://forum.jbperf.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8

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On 19th Oct, 2010 Rod S said:
The first thing I'll be assembling it to do is take the output from my third wideband (which is an Innovate LC-1) to the MS2 digitally, rather than a 0-5V analogue signal which I'm convinced has some ground offset at the moment (it doesn't quite read the average of the two TechEdge inner/outer widebands).


Just reading that link to Tech Edge in Jim's post.

They give some data on the effect of lambda readings based on different pressures.

Could you be pressurising the sensors in the sample tubes?

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I don't think so...

Graham T and I had a debate via PM when he ask me why both you and I are using sample chambers and was it just because of temperature before the turbo....

My answer was no, more to do with the pressure. The Innovative site also says the same about readings being affected by pressure.

My design logic is with 16mm tubes downstream of the sample chambers (~12mm bore) and 6mm sample tubes (4mm bore) leading to the chambers, by the time you square those figures for CSA there can't be any pressure in the chambers.

I did actually buy some thinwall 6mm tube (5mm bore) to use on the outer chamber (where the flow is lower) but never got around to doing it.

If I can't get the readings balanced with Jean's I/O'x board I may yet try that.

I've also been thinking about the fact we only monitor one of the outer cylinders in both our setups so far....... temperature variations from one end of the block to the other, misfires on one of the outer cylinders only, etc, could all screw that reading. With the old fashioned Metro manifold it wouldn't be too hard to sample off both the outers :)

But if pressure is skewing the readings, your sample tubes and mine are both pretty similar ???

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Yes, our samples chambers are very similar but i've not fitted a sensor in the common pipe.

They may not be seeing any pressure, but they may be getting a high velocity blast.

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any update rod ??
iv sold mine :( an i regret it lol

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Haven't really touched it (the actual shell) since last year as I've been working on all the electronics.

The electronics are now basically sorted so back to the metal.... (well mostly fibreglass at the moment).

Front refitted (remember it hinges backwards) but I need to let some air in....



A bit more cutting



Intercooler is fine, not so sure about the radiator



the fit of a fibreglass front is truely awful....


especially on the right


But do standard arches pass the Carlos Fandango test ???

(6 X 10 Mambas)




I hope so......

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Glad to see you are back - and making progress !


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rod , is it my imagination ,or have all your pictures dissapeared ?

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Same for me robert.

My build thread: http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=454802

Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/85313398@N02/


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yes for me as well

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Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


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my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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On 24th Sep, 2012 robert said:
rod , is it my imagination ,or have all your pictures dissapeared ?


Robert,

I've been out of the country for a while so only just seen this.....

major photobucket failure about 3-4 weeks ago - probably my fault.....

I'd hit the "max" limit on the usual free account so started deleting the older ones.

My "broadband" is so slow I left the "delete" function running by itself and when I came back it was still deleting.....

Very little left apart from the last 6 months.

No easy way that I can see to restore them as photobucket adds some additional characters to the file name which I don't think the img code will see if I re-load them (and if I did re-load them, I'd be back to square one, no space....)

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Perhaps this won't work, but if you have run out of space on Photobucket, can you not just register yourself again on another account and off you go with more space? May require another email address but thats easy enough to sort?


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Thanks for the suggestion Tom, but I tried that.

Somehow photobucket "knows" me, even with another email address (I have three with different ISPs), it just linked the accounts into one when I tried to set up a new one with one of my other email addresses...

Cookies, or maybe something more clever ???

Restoring everything wouldn't be too hard if it weren't for the extra characters photobucket added which I presume are embedded into the IMG links.

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Try flickr, you have a monthly allowance but mine has never got full in a good few years.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*

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