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I was thinkinng about one of avt's chargecoolers at one point when i didn't think i could get a decent sized FMIC in,

apparently they are used in a lot of mid/ rear engined cars to good effect, lotus's, renault alpines etc.

i decided against it as i've already added enough weight without a whole bunch of water...

Carl is looking into this for his starlet clubby.

As you say they arent cheap but theyre meant to be very efficient.

However an auxilery rad must be used for the cooler but it has to be smaller than a inter cooler

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Hi,
There's a couple of complete RST Pace charge cooler kits on e bay at the mo, £300
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Gavin :)

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I would have expected the heat rejection rad to be of a simillar size to an intercooler, as it still has to reject the same amount of heat in the same ambient conditions.

The charge cooler itself is indeed compact, but it still needs to get rid of the same heat load as an intercooler, unless you use some sort of refrigeration effect

I think the water can be used as "heat storage" so the heat can be dumped into the water while on boost and be cooled while not on boost.

the down side is that the shortor our of boost duty cylce the more water volume you need.

Hi,
True Sprox, but a charge cooler rad would be thinner than an IC. Which may just solve some clearance issues...
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Edited by Sprocket on 29th Dec, 2007.

good points on chargecoolers - and yes are very good at solving packaging issues - if I were desperate I would run a rad at the back of the car and some nice "finned" alloy pipes the whole length of the car underneath for additional cooling/volume!

Sprock - this method of chargecooler is used to good effect - lots of applications like this by Magnasun,TRD etc, take a look at one of their ford focus kits - usa market only - identical to what you have mentioned

JK

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it would probably be like this one!

ive heard efficiency levels of good avt ones plus you can go low below the ambient temp.

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Hmm that post of yours Robert makes them more tempting!!

This could be the way forward im reconing.

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Right did a quick mock up on the car and it will fit in a treat along where the old side rad went.

Im going to try and use a smallish rad as I never hold it on boost for long periods of time so it could easily cool down when off boost.

Im going to use a Renault 19 16V pump as they seem fairly cheap and should easily be up to the job, and hopefully find a rad to squeeze in next to my main rad up front.

The good thing is, the distance between the turbo outlet and plenum inlet is probably no longer than 1m, which is half the length hosing I used to have! :)

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1/4mile in 13.2sec @ 111 terminal on 15psi

matt if you want to come over some time i have a chargecooler rad and a chargecooler you could look at ,als o there some stuff on that site id take with a pinch of salt ,its seems to me its basically a air to air ic inside a tube surounded with water,you could prob make your own ?

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Yeah that would be good Robert, I'll give you a call in during the week if thats all right?

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yep no probs ,nic may be round so you could tie together if you like ?

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Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM

oh crumbs, I now fear what may happen at roberts house...

you and so many others nic have felt this way !!!

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How are things going with the build? I can't seem to see the pictures atm!!

Yeah progress has been a bit slow as my mate is moving house and thats where I do the machining.

Ive got the GT17 downpipe sussed now, that should be finished (hopefully) in the next week or two, ive also nearly finished my oil filler/breather/return.

I think the pics aren't working because of the srever change, im sure Alex will sort this shortly though!

Have you managed to get any more done on yours yet?

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1/4mile in 13.2sec @ 111 terminal on 15psi

matty this is an amazing car ,cant waitto see it!

Yeah been machining up the part for the inlet chamber Then I need to drop it in the car a complete the exhaust manifold, pretty much the same design as yours. Slightly different turbo, going for a GT2056 because it was cheap and no one seems to have tried one yet, and they are rated upto 260BHP so should be up to the job i hope.

Edited by mikemph on 11th Jan, 2008.

I think the GT2056 could work really well, seems to have really good eficiency.

Yeah hope the GT2056 delivers the goods, looks good to me.

Heres a few piccys of my build so far.

Edited by mikemph on 12th Jan, 2008.