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fastcarl

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leeds/wakefield.

tho bored holes stop short of the outer threaded area, so no loss of strength ,
plus i'd be very surprised if you can create enough load to break the end off on road tyres .usually only happens on big slick shod circuit cars ,the ones i knoe of are used in endurance racing up vegards way in norway'Denmark.

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Did you sort something out for those guys in Norway /Sweden that kept breaking CVs?

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fastcarl

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leeds/wakefield.

No Vegard,theres not much can be done except change regularly, or redesign the end section.which meens making all new,
i have pics of the lightenoing if anyone wants to post it up i'll mail it.

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email it to me carl

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I think the welsh one has it right!


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On 02/03/2006 14:55:22 fastcarl said:

tho bored holes stop short of the outer threaded area, so no loss of strength ,
plus i'd be very surprised if you can create enough load to break the end off on road tyres .usually only happens on big slick shod circuit cars ,the ones i knoe of are used in endurance racing up vegards way in norway'Denmark.

carl


Still a bit worried, although next door to where my dad works is a race car company who make driveshafts stronger by remanufacturing them hollow.......interesting.
Any other innovative lightened bits Carl?
Paul

I seriously doubt it!


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I thought of making some shafts from CDS must be much lighter.

here are carls pics

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


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fastcarl

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leeds/wakefield.

which bit worroies you Paul??.


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Obviously youve had no probs but with the hole down the centre it just strikes me that they could break. Its not to say anything bad of them you understand. If I was purely 1/4 mile I would do it.
I am concerned that when I hit roundabouts ( and we all know theres hundreds in Milton Keynes) at speeds of 80+ with a tight Salisbury it might put largeish forces on them.
Paul

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leeds/wakefield.

true what you say about forces,BUT there has been no modification to the part that breaks ,ie off by the nut the threaded part is not heat treated ,this is done i assume to keep the workable,this area is the weekest point by far and isa under a lot of tension ,both from the tightening the big nut and also extra tension as the drive flange tries to lever the bolt off when side loads are applied,
the area with the hole passing through it hasa wall which is left entirely from head treated material, and is not going to break before the threaded area does first,

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If your after some nice lightweight cv's have a look at these babies. These are the tripode ends i lopped of the end of a 2005 F1 drive shaft last week. The drive shaft is a tube with a wall thickness of around an 1/8th, thats 3.3mm for you metric boys.


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As Nic says you need to allow for a multiplication factor due to it rotating. Anything rotating acts like a gyroscope and really resists accelaration.


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leeds/wakefield.

mirage they are only a small part of the complete assembly surely,

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What you have there is the end of the driveshaft. The joint and shaft is actually one part (i chopped out the rest of the shaft). On the end of each lobe is a needle roller bearing that has a radioused OD (these can be ceramic). This rounded bearing face then runs in the outer part of the cv. This style of joint is great, much better than a cv, they are extremely efficient when at an angle. this style is fairly common in motorsport, buts its just one much nicer in F1 with silly money.

The end of the shaft here has a total diameter of around 3" and the shaft is just over 1 1/2" diameter

Edited by Mirage on 7th Mar, 2006.


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Have a look at this link to see what sort of joint they are.

http://www.gkndriveline.com/gkn-driveline/...m/gi-tripod.jsp


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F1 my arse. I had some just like that in a sierra...


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fastcarl

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leeds/wakefield.

what dave ,you had f3 cv's on your sierra, great conversion.
wicked innit man!!!!..

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Cant you guys appreciate art !!! LOL.

Seriously these things are well sexy, the whole shaft with joints has been machined from solid.

I should imagine the cost of a pair of these would have bought your sierra new !! lol


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Forgot to mention that you can get a converstion(think mike barrat was doing it) that uses tripod joints on ya mini.


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Carl have you still go the pics of the cv? As I am curious to see how it's done.

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There is no such thing as 'insignificant weight saving', it all adds up.

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