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 684 Posts Member #: 9590 Post Whore Derby |
18th Dec, 2013 at 09:09:12am
If your not running a rear beam, have you looked into using one of them? i couldnt believe how light my beam and arms were compared to the subframe setup.
Matt W
On 14th Mar, 2012 mw3 said:
Got a nice big delivery from Carl at Force Racing today. |
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 1434 Posts Member #: 8466 Post Whore Mansfield |
18th Dec, 2013 at 11:16:12am
465kg is already very impressive. My cars at 570kg, only difference being I have steel doors, roof and boot floor. I have all the fancy alloy stuff, ie Kad hubs, Kad rear arms, Kad brakes etc. 100kg is a massive difference. I'm planning on replacing my lighten rear subframe for a beam this year, should loose 10kg. I may loose mY Rollcage aswel as it adds 29.5kg. My seat is also steel framed seat at 10kg.
Edited by alaskanow0 on 18th Dec, 2013. Class C 3rd Place Avon 2011 14.18 @101mph |
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 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
18th Dec, 2013 at 11:22:14am
Actually now you say it 465kg will be in the top 5 lightest minis on here and vs paul w, don, Rich, chris d, that is impressive I guess Edited by Brett on 20th Dec, 2013. Yes i moved to the darkside |
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Forum Mod  5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
18th Dec, 2013 at 01:23:40pm
Is that 29.5kg a full cage or rear. My car is at 387kg and Im hoping to offset enough other stuff to not add anything when I put a cage in I seriously doubt it! |
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 3673 Posts Member #: 9300 Post Whore Quarry Bonk |
18th Dec, 2013 at 02:17:03pm
The front and rear bolt in safety devices cages are around 35-40kg I think. On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!! 17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine) |
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1434 Posts Member #: 8466 Post Whore Mansfield |
18th Dec, 2013 at 02:35:36pm
Full Safety devices bolt in cage, with weld in plates. Plus 38mm 1.5mm alloy dash bar for gauge mount etc. This may not include bolts though. Class C 3rd Place Avon 2011 14.18 @101mph |
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Forum Mod 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
18th Dec, 2013 at 05:11:09pm
On 18th Dec, 2013 alaskanow0 said:
Full Safety devices bolt in cage, with weld in plates. Plus 38mm 1.5mm alloy dash bar for gauge mount etc. This may not include bolts though. Cheers, thats a lot lighter than I anticipated, looks like I may even get it lighter than before then. I seriously doubt it! |
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 6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
18th Dec, 2013 at 05:28:32pm
I suppose you'll save a bit on the cage as well given it will not be full size? |
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1434 Posts Member #: 8466 Post Whore Mansfield |
18th Dec, 2013 at 06:00:04pm
That's with a fixed diagonal Class C 3rd Place Avon 2011 14.18 @101mph |
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 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
18th Dec, 2013 at 06:52:03pm
http://www.safetydevices.com/motorsport/pr...-1959-2001/361/
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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 202 Posts Member #: 10595 Senior Member Pembrokeshire,Wales. |
18th Dec, 2013 at 07:54:44pm
hi mate, the only difference are not only the steel doors, roof and bootfloor! for a start my seats are 3.2kg each, also have you compared a steel roof and steel doors wth standard hindges too a carbon fibre doors and a carbon fibre roof with force racing hidges?there is a massive saving of weight!cheers lee.
On 18th Dec, 2013 alaskanow0 said:
465kg is already very impressive. My cars at 570kg, only difference being I have steel doors, roof and boot floor. I have all the fancy alloy stuff, ie Kad hubs, Kad rear arms, Kad brakes etc. 100kg is a massive difference. I'm planning on replacing my lighten rear subframe for a beam this year, should loose 10kg. I may loose mY Rollcage aswel as it adds 29.5kg. My seat is also steel framed seat at 10kg. My target was £500kg, but seeing other cars like 1380Rich struggled to get so low, am amazed your already at 465kg with Cage, rear subframe and Turbo engine. Here my build thread http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=408920 more speed 1293 turbo mini-180bhp 171tourque@15psi
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202 Posts Member #: 10595 Senior Member Pembrokeshire,Wales. |
18th Dec, 2013 at 08:11:04pm
I have driven a few minis with beams and I just don't like the handling! So I have stuck with the original subframe And drilled it too fuck!!cheers lee
On 18th Dec, 2013 mw3 said:
If your not running a rear beam, have you looked into using one of them? i couldnt believe how light my beam and arms were compared to the subframe setup. Also what about rear discs? more speed 1293 turbo mini-180bhp 171tourque@15psi
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9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
18th Dec, 2013 at 08:20:34pm
i have a feeling this thread is turning into my balls are lighter than yours
Yes i moved to the darkside |
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 6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
18th Dec, 2013 at 08:36:34pm
MY balls are bigger than yours, |
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Forum Mod 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
18th Dec, 2013 at 08:43:39pm
If thats my fault - it wasnt my intention, just wanted to point out that a lot of weight can be removed/give some idea of what can be done aswell as find out the weight of the cage for myself I seriously doubt it! |
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9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
18th Dec, 2013 at 08:53:24pm
it wasnt aimed at you at all, infact the cage weights i found the most usefull my self
On 18th Dec, 2013 paul wiginton said:
If thats my fault Yes i moved to the darkside |
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1434 Posts Member #: 8466 Post Whore Mansfield |
18th Dec, 2013 at 08:53:32pm
Sorry Lee,
Class C 3rd Place Avon 2011 14.18 @101mph |
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 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
18th Dec, 2013 at 09:00:15pm
Standard steel roof skin weighs 11.3KG. I weighed mine before fitting. Lots of worthwhile reading on C.F. roofs here:
On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it 
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1434 Posts Member #: 8466 Post Whore Mansfield |
18th Dec, 2013 at 10:29:36pm
Thanks Andy, I have no plans to fit a carbon roof. Been there done that and regreted it. Just interested how much weight it saved. Obviously not that much by all accounts. Class C 3rd Place Avon 2011 14.18 @101mph |
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3673 Posts Member #: 9300 Post Whore Quarry Bonk |
18th Dec, 2013 at 10:35:40pm
I know when i removed my folding sunroof to fit my fg one it wouldn't have surprised me if I'd saved nigh on 20kg, is was frigging heavy. Nice in the summer though. Saving loads of weight from a mini goes much deeper than drilling holes and throwing composite panels on if you're aiming for a ridiculously light car. It's not as easy to just take stuff off and bin it like more modern cars because there's not much to be thrown out in the first place. You have to use your ingenuity and get creative. I'm only looking to offset the weight of things I'm adding plus a bit more, 600kg is my target and I doubt I'll find it easy. On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!! 17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine) |
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1434 Posts Member #: 8466 Post Whore Mansfield |
18th Dec, 2013 at 10:43:38pm
Ti driveshafts will save you 1.4kg in total for both sides for £400. £285 per kg.
On 17th Dec, 2013 F415dda said:
That's an idea then! I'm ordering the titanium drive shafts after Christmas! Tubular subframe would be idea but is mega bucks!! Class C 3rd Place Avon 2011 14.18 @101mph |
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3673 Posts Member #: 9300 Post Whore Quarry Bonk |
18th Dec, 2013 at 10:45:29pm
I feel like this should have been one of Simon's posts, but bollocks to it! On 18th Dec, 2013 Brett said:
i have a feeling this thread is turning into my balls are lighter than yours and thats a shame because it started as a good informative thread :( On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!! 17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine) |
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 538 Posts Member #: 9393 Use the search function before buying stuff from me... stoke on trent |
18th Dec, 2013 at 10:51:44pm
How did you measure the weight? Weighbridge or brake rollers? |
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 5417 Posts Member #: 6181 Double hard bastard brookwood woking |
18th Dec, 2013 at 10:52:18pm
Hahaha,here you go carl some Genuine Carbon Fibre!!
Edited by madmk1 on 18th Dec, 2013. I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf
On 1st Nov, 2007 Ben H said:
There is no such thing as 'insignificant weight saving', it all adds up. |
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202 Posts Member #: 10595 Senior Member Pembrokeshire,Wales. |
19th Dec, 2013 at 02:40:45pm
On 18th Dec, 2013 alaskanow0 said:
Sorry Lee, Clearly your car is far lighter because it's got loads of genuine carbon fibre. Have you got any before and after weights for roof & doors inc hinges. According to my spreadsheet, carbon doors would loose me another 14kg, 1 carbon seat 5.4kg, Ti beam inc coilovers 11.2kg. Total approx 32kg. Roof 10kg?? So another 50kg at a push. Still no we're near my 500kg target. I'm really looking for a reason, to get motovated again, so please inspire me. more speed 1293 turbo mini-180bhp 171tourque@15psi
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