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paul wiginton
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Thats not so bad then, I had ideas of ecu's and turbos being goosed from all that liquid.
Im sure you'll have it up n running again soon enough knowing you

I seriously doubt it!


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ECU is well IP rated. After we cleaned up the mess it actually started, all be it on 3 cylinders.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


Si P

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Never mind about the Red car.

What about the TT3-BS....?








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Edited by Si P on 11th Jul, 2012.

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British Racing Brown :)

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Just an idle question but would you be allowed to run water injection?

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Off the top of my head I can think of no rule that would stop you using it.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


John

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Would it be worth a go Wil for you and Ben? Cheap power, lower charge temps. Surely this can only be a good thing *smiley*

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OMG mate that's not good. I was amazed at how fast you were going, great in side vid. Hope you sort it soon.

Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
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hay any ideas what made it do that? was it the old port robbing again? on your new head :p

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haha, yeah, port robbing!!!

There is no fault with det or ignition or fuelling that has caused this. It is purely that the top of the piston was too thin owing to me machining too much dish in it.

So water inj. not really needed. the pistons in Bens engine are identical and 5 seasons old. My extra boost/power/rpm has just exceeded the limits of the cast piston.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


John

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I was thinking more of the performance gains rather than the longevity.

Could it potentially bring the BS up to be as quick as yours without the 7-portiness?

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As you will see when I sort the videos of bens car, the main disadvantage is low end power. Ben's engine will still take more boost, but ultimately the plan is to 7-port it. Based on all the info I have, the 5-port will always be at a disadvantage.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


Paul S

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Interesting that it is No. 4 that failed though. Even after you've modified the cooling feed to the head.

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I agree, it may well have been weakend during the initial over heating. As I have said already, there is no sign of det , it is purely a piston failure.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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Good effort Wil do you run undercrown jets?


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Ah,

with them that thin I'm imressed they have lasted this long,

Do you have any other piston options for the 998, or will you just replace with another set and see how it goes.

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Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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On 9th Jul, 2012 Si P said:
Never mind about the Red car.

What about the TT3-BS....?


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Not that I don't appreciate the videos, but we are the Hamer brothers not the Ker brothers.

Was a good weekend though, lots of dry track for a change and the TT3-BS was more or less faultless.

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I think you have hit the nail on the head mate. leave a bit more meet on them for your set up then *wink*

On 9th Jul, 2012 wil_h said:
haha, yeah, port robbing!!!

There is no fault with det or ignition or fuelling that has caused this. It is purely that the top of the piston was too thin owing to me machining too much dish in it.

So water inj. not really needed. the pistons in Bens engine are identical and 5 seasons old. My extra boost/power/rpm has just exceeded the limits of the cast piston.

Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on a carb?
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on Injection?

http://www.mattwoodsphotography.com


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Standard fitment on a 998.

On 9th Jul, 2012 haimesyboi said:
Good effort Wil do you run undercrown jets?

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

www.twin-turbo.co.uk

On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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bad luck guys, lucky escape in a lot of ways.

Sorry to drag this OT

I've tried water injection, I found it lowered my ACT about 50deg, but I lost power, I also tried 50/50 meth water mix, got some of the lost power back but still less than ranning without. I found this strange after all the reading on varius forums.

This was 2 years ago. Since then I have spoken to a few engine builders and race car teams and also have same opionion on WI, your better off spending your money on better matched turbo and more effeicent intercooler core.

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Thanks for dragging it OT jimbo *smiley*

Interesting findings there.

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Watching the video back again I am impressed with how calm you were when it blew. Did the puff of flame not make you're bum wink a bit


wil_h

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You race minis, you get used to this kind of thing!!

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

www.twin-turbo.co.uk

On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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Interesting, guessing that was on the same boost? Did you not see how much more boost it enabled you to run?



On 10th Jul, 2012 Jimster said:
bad luck guys, lucky escape in a lot of ways.

Sorry to drag this OT

I've tried water injection, I found it lowered my ACT about 50deg, but I lost power, I also tried 50/50 meth water mix, got some of the lost power back but still less than ranning without. I found this strange after all the reading on varius forums.

This was 2 years ago. Since then I have spoken to a few engine builders and race car teams and also have same opionion on WI, your better off spending your money on better matched turbo and more effeicent intercooler core.

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On 15th Mar, 2012 wil_h said:

Yes, Carl says he gets requests for rimming all the time

On 30th Apr, 2012 Brett said:
yeah stick the bit in and give it a wobble *wink*


Si P

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Sorry about that Ben, My friend shot the vid, then he sent me the clip. I uploaded it without reading the title. Sorted now.

Nice to meet you both to. Hopefully see you in September maybe even joining you on the hill.

Also got a couple of half decent pics of the car I'll post them up for you.

Loved the Clan Crusader to...

Due you happen to know what motor was in the red spaceframe mini. 5 port..? or multi valve.?

Si


On 9th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
On 9th Jul, 2012 Si P said:
Never mind about the Red car.

What about the TT3-BS....?


Si P


Not that I don't appreciate the videos, but we are the Hamer brothers not the Ker brothers.

Was a good weekend though, lots of dry track for a change and the TT3-BS was more or less faultless.
*wink*

I drill holes in everything..!

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