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 608 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
19th Mar, 2011 at 10:29:07am
Yes, I've just had an email conversation with Paul S about the AT Power TB. Based on the dimensions he has given me, I can attach the 50mm TB via a flange to the Plenum and still have room to bring the pipe around and squeeze between the cylinder head and Servo/ master cylinder to the intercooler.
On 5th Dec, 2010 Paul S said:
Also not sure that you can get a 50mm silicone pipe and clamp on the inlet without it fouling the quadrant... Did you confirm whether the hose would foul the quadrant? ’77 Clubman build thread
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 (2)[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/150672766@N03/]Rod Sugden[/url], on Fli) 5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
19th Mar, 2011 at 10:32:18am
On 19th Mar, 2011 Graham T said:
I think I can tap a small M3 hole in the injector pocket block, just... 
That looks fine but as it's off the centreline vertically, retain the links (or fit a new simpler single triangular link slipped over the same stud) up to the plenum then the lateral location remains off the plenum and the clamp force is off the stud. Be carefull against overtightening the M3 stud, the stud itself will easily carry the pressure loading from the fuel but if you overtighten it you take away the margin. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
19th Mar, 2011 at 10:34:21am
On 19th Mar, 2011 Graham T said:
Did you confirm whether the hose would foul the quadrant? The gap is around 6.5mm into which you have to get the hose and clamp. It's going to be close. Last thing we want is the throtlle stuck open :( I'll see if I can do a trial fit later. Have to go and weld in some roll cage plates now. Edited by Paul S on 19th Mar, 2011. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
19th Mar, 2011 at 10:53:10am
Well, Sturgeo is still in his pit and I'm not welding his car on my own, so i've done a mock up.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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608 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
20th Mar, 2011 at 09:58:55am
Thanks Paul, I think I can just make it fit.
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608 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
2nd Apr, 2011 at 07:12:29pm
Just a little update on getting this all to fit. I took delivery of an AT power Throttle body a few days back, so I'm just mocking up the pipework to see how best to get it all to fit.
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 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
2nd Apr, 2011 at 07:19:50pm
looking good!
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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608 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
3rd Dec, 2011 at 08:45:15pm
And finally, 8 months later I have got the inlet manifold bolted to the engine, finished building the engine, installed it in the shell and started it up…
Edited by Graham T on 3rd Dec, 2011. ’77 Clubman build thread
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
3rd Dec, 2011 at 09:11:51pm
Good to see it all coming together. How far are you from getting the car on the road? Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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608 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
3rd Dec, 2011 at 09:24:44pm
A long way off yet. Maybe late spring, if I'm lucky...
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 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
4th Dec, 2011 at 08:47:45am
On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it 
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
4th Dec, 2011 at 09:28:55am
Good to see real progress
On 3rd Dec, 2011 Graham T said:
A long way off yet. Maybe late spring, if I'm lucky.... So there is still a chance I won't be last :) Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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608 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
4th Dec, 2011 at 10:09:36am
That depends on how far through you are now Rod?
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
4th Dec, 2011 at 10:32:24am
Graham, just one thing that is puzzling me.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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608 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
4th Dec, 2011 at 10:55:05am
Paul, I'm using an opto switch now, the same as Rod.
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
4th Dec, 2011 at 11:13:06am
Thanks for explaining that.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
4th Dec, 2011 at 11:39:29am
On 4th Dec, 2011 Graham T said:
Rod, please correct me if I have just spouted a load of rubbish. Nothing wrong with that but just to expand a bit further, it's also associated with the use of Jean's dual VR board - which is installed on my "spare" MS2 - for the secondary tach as well as the primary. It works absolutely fine on the primary VR crank sensor (no more pots to fiddle with, it just works straight out of the box) but is a bit more tricky to get it to work wih an Opto or Hall trigger for the secondary tach. I've been through it with Jean and it will work for other signals (connected slightly differently) but, for reasons which are not entirely clear yet, it has required a different value of resistor across its input to get it to work reliably on three different engines all with essentially the same opto switch....... With the benefit of hindsight I'll stick with the normal U3 input for the secondary tach (Hall or opto) in future and only use this board for VR inputs which it was originally intended for. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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608 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
4th Dec, 2011 at 02:01:08pm
On 4th Dec, 2011 Rod S said:
It works absolutely fine on the primary VR crank sensor (no more pots to fiddle with, it just works straight out of the box) but is a bit more tricky to get it to work wih an Opto or Hall trigger for the secondary tach. I've been through it with Jean and it will work for other signals (connected slightly differently) but, for reasons which are not entirely clear yet, it has required a different value of resistor across its input to get it to work reliably on three different engines all with essentially the same opto switch....... I wonder if it has anything to do with internal resistances of the wiring between different installs? When I first started up the turbo Engine I was using jump leads only. I could only get 150 – 170RPM on starter, but the engine started and ran, using the 10k resistor. After a bit of starting and stopping and a flattened battery I changed batteries for a fully charged one. This gave the same slow turn over. I changed the +ve jump lead for the new battery lead and cranking speed increase to 250 – 270RPM. However, no sync until I changed the resistor to 15k. I still have a jump lead as the –ve until I can find the original earth strap I used on the test engine back along, or buy a new one. ’77 Clubman build thread
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
4th Dec, 2011 at 02:35:28pm
Could it be the wide tolerance of the capacitor values on the MS board or the opto sensor itself? Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
4th Dec, 2011 at 02:57:39pm
On 4th Dec, 2011 Paul S said:
Could it be the wide tolerance of the capacitor values on the MS board or the opto sensor itself? It shouldn't be the capacitors in this case as the new board bypasses virtually everything on the MS2. It certainly could be the variation in values of the optoswitches but somehow I doubt it (gut feel only). I just get the sense that this circuit is very VR friendly but very square wave un-friendly. More testing required. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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 9812 Posts Member #: 332 Resident Cylinder Head Modifier Mitsi Evo 7, 911, Cossie. & all the chavs ...... won no problem |
4th Dec, 2011 at 04:43:05pm
good oil pressure and did it fire up straight away
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608 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
4th Dec, 2011 at 05:30:02pm
steve,
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114 Posts Member #: 9645 Advanced Member South Wales |
6th Dec, 2011 at 01:25:17pm
Looking good.
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 971 Posts Member #: 3228 Post Whore North of the Netherlands |
6th Dec, 2011 at 03:14:42pm
Nice Graham, really nice. Dazed and Confused.... |
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608 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
6th Dec, 2011 at 05:43:40pm
Yes, it is wasted spark. I'm using Jean's 4 channel ignition/ injection driver board driving the ford coil pack with 2 of the 4 ignition circuits.
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