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232 Posts Member #: 1197 Senior Member Dublin Ireland |
27th Apr, 2010 at 12:28:29pm
On 27th Apr, 2010 PaulH said:
Kent MD286SC no question about it the best road cam has always been the Kent286SC that is accept the VP8C which with out doubt is the best A series cam in creation. I agree with Paul, Ive driven loads of 1380's with varied cams, my current race car build has a 296 scatter but Im changing that, but I found for road light track use the Kent 286 to be my favourite for best of both, in my old 1430 track clubman I used a VP8C and it was an absolute blast I loved that cam Mark |
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1346 Posts Member #: 2340 Post Whore Dublin Ireland |
27th Apr, 2010 at 01:53:25pm
I have had no experence with the RE13 seems like a good profile and Graham sure knows what he is doing, I would not see it as a Trackday cam more a spicy road cam. That said with the right spec it seems to do well and makes the power,
On 27th Apr, 2010 mini13 said:
what dou you rackon to the RE13? On 17th Feb, 2009 Rob H said:
I find the easiest way is to super glue the bolt to the end of one of my fingers. ______________________________________________________ |
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61 Posts Member #: 1885 Advanced Member somewhere |
27th Apr, 2010 at 05:39:31pm
On 27th Apr, 2010 PaulH said:
At the end of the day if I was looking to build an all out weekend warrior I would use the VP8C and spec the motor accordingly. vp8c? so what kind of spec would you choose? |
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1394 Posts Member #: 1346 Post Whore bromsgrove |
27th Apr, 2010 at 08:32:14pm
have a look at this chart, i think very useful when choosing a cam
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243 Posts Member #: 1261 Senior Member Droitwich |
27th Apr, 2010 at 10:55:01pm
Go for something around 300deg, my bp300 lacks a bit of the torque of a 649, but its a bit more tractable off the line and revs for a bit longer too.
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7763 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
28th Apr, 2010 at 08:29:29am
On 27th Apr, 2010 JetBLICK said:
Lookin at the spec and FD you're using I'd think you'll be disappointed with anything less than a 300degree cam. So anything like a 649, BP300, MD296 or above. I totally disagree. I wouldn't be stuck in traffic with either. Also, this range of cost will seriously increase the cost of building an engine. Proper pistons, one piece valves, ultralight flywheel, CR-box, a PROPER head, big exhaust, Weber 45 etc. Too much for a road engine in my book. Edited by Vegard on 28th Apr, 2010. On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
28th Apr, 2010 at 09:03:19am
I have a plot of the VP8c somewhere, On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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243 Posts Member #: 1261 Senior Member Droitwich |
28th Apr, 2010 at 09:06:59am
On 28th Apr, 2010 Vegard said:
On 27th Apr, 2010 JetBLICK said:
Lookin at the spec and FD you're using I'd think you'll be disappointed with anything less than a 300degree cam. So anything like a 649, BP300, MD296 or above. I totally disagree. I would be stuck in traffic in either. Also, this range of cost will seriously increase the cost of building an engine. Proper pistons, one piece valves, ultralight flywheel, CR-box, a PROPER head, big exhaust, Weber 45 etc. Too much for a road engine in my book. consider the rest of his spec too tho, all the crank work etc, its clearly not an average low cost build... I think you're just being a pansy |
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1346 Posts Member #: 2340 Post Whore Dublin Ireland |
28th Apr, 2010 at 10:44:20am
Agree with you on this Veg 300 cam in a road car is just pants, in fact a 296 is a pain in the tits let alone a 300,
On 28th Apr, 2010 Vegard said:
On 27th Apr, 2010 JetBLICK said:
Lookin at the spec and FD you're using I'd think you'll be disappointed with anything less than a 300degree cam. So anything like a 649, BP300, MD296 or above. I totally disagree. I wouldn't be stuck in traffic with either. Also, this range of cost will seriously increase the cost of building an engine. Proper pistons, one piece valves, ultralight flywheel, CR-box, a PROPER head, big exhaust, Weber 45 etc. Too much for a road engine in my book. On 17th Feb, 2009 Rob H said:
I find the easiest way is to super glue the bolt to the end of one of my fingers. ______________________________________________________ |
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940 Posts Member #: 1424 Post Whore Carnforth, Lancs |
28th Apr, 2010 at 03:51:25pm
I have run an RE13OT and found it excellent for road work and it pulled over 100bhp on a 1380 with twin 1.5" SUs.
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1424 Posts Member #: 2810 Formally spanner181187 Dublin, Ireland |
28th Apr, 2010 at 04:03:28pm
On 28th Apr, 2010 graemec said:
I have run an RE13OT What does the "OT" suffix mean? I though he had a turbo specific version of the RE13, called the RE13T, which I assumed meant turbo. On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:
I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse On 30th Apr, 2010 Rod S said:
Gary's description is best |
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940 Posts Member #: 1424 Post Whore Carnforth, Lancs |
28th Apr, 2010 at 04:12:17pm
TBH I'm not sure - Calver sells the RE13OT and the RE13PP. The OT is the slightly milder of the two.
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
28th Apr, 2010 at 04:33:46pm
if the OT is on a wider LCA i'll have it.
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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940 Posts Member #: 1424 Post Whore Carnforth, Lancs |
28th Apr, 2010 at 04:47:42pm
A narrow LCA I believe - think it is 104.5 |
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Forum Mod 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
28th Apr, 2010 at 05:10:16pm
I cant believe what pussys everyone seems to be when choosing a cam. I seriously doubt it! |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
28th Apr, 2010 at 05:55:17pm
On 28th Apr, 2010 paul wiginton said:
I cant believe what pussys everyone seems to be when choosing a cam. Meeeaaawwww! Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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6274 Posts Member #: 509 Post Whore Isle of Man |
28th Apr, 2010 at 05:59:04pm
story of my life, i know loads of people that go for 266/276 etc and are so dissapointed with what a 'fast raod' cam offers
"Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun"
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1394 Posts Member #: 1346 Post Whore bromsgrove |
28th Apr, 2010 at 08:13:30pm
if i remember anton had a 300 degree with MJ ignition and run well on the road. Anyway the choice can only be yours. all i will say is i am very please with my vp3c and a friend has vp8c with 100bhp at wheels and he is very happy |
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243 Posts Member #: 1261 Senior Member Droitwich |
28th Apr, 2010 at 11:10:46pm
On 28th Apr, 2010 paul wiginton said:
I cant believe what pussys everyone seems to be when choosing a cam. x2 |
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493 Posts Member #: 3894 Senior Member sallys gap. garden of Ireland |
29th Apr, 2010 at 12:24:31am
md300 scatter. i love it. could do with a webber, but ok on 44
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493 Posts Member #: 3894 Senior Member sallys gap. garden of Ireland |
29th Apr, 2010 at 01:15:16am
my first photo on here, hope it works
Edited by 1972-ANGUS on 29th Apr, 2010. |
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1497 Posts Member #: 100 Parisien Turbo Expert Paris\' suburb |
29th Apr, 2010 at 07:45:41am
defo can't agree,
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
29th Apr, 2010 at 08:17:57am
I think the key to a succesful choice of cam is having it matched to the cylinder head. You can only do this by trial and error. Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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7763 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
29th Apr, 2010 at 08:24:53am
On 29th Apr, 2010 1972-ANGUS said:
md300 scatter. i love it. could do with a webber, but ok on 44 But detest its creator, i pray its a ripoff and he gets sued, or sent to jail, lol!! Md300Scatter with a 44? If you change it for a 286 you'll, have the same top end and more torque.. On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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Forum Mod 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
29th Apr, 2010 at 05:40:20pm
On 28th Apr, 2010 wil_h said:
On 28th Apr, 2010 paul wiginton said:
I cant believe what pussys everyone seems to be when choosing a cam. Meeeaaawwww! Didnt mean to sound an arrogant twat by that but, I built my Sprint originally with a 296sp, it weighed 650kg and showed 134 bananas on Swiftys dyno bench. My wife drove it on the London to Brighton run from Crystal Palace, through London traffic while she was 7 months pregnant - shows how easy a 296 is to drive. Ive since fitted a 310sp and a Salisbury diff set at 120lb, the 296 showed 140 Baldwin bananas, the 310 shows 155 Baldwins, she has driven it to work and to Tesco for shopping no trouble. Between Gavin and I we have run nearly every cam out there and we kept putting off fitting a 310 because everyone said theyre undriveable - Bullshit! I say, if there was a cam that would give me more power and more undriveability I would fit it and still gladly drive it on the road. This thread is about a cam choice for a trackday car, if you fit a little cam - 286 or less you will regret it as soon as anything else powers past you, then spend loads of money changing it for a proper cam. Paul I seriously doubt it! |
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