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857 Posts Member #: 1778 Post Whore Northants |
23rd Mar, 2010 at 08:46:38pm
On 23rd Mar, 2010 johnflamered said:
Sorry for the poor question to start but now we are cooking lol and my (b) would be a supercharger set up as would save the most parts of my current set up so on that set up or a k series all of them will work I think lol (not shore on 4 and 5 has any one tried them) witch brings me to what I was after at the start ease of fit eg loom and the ease of using the software to map and the best place/prixe to get them from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k&feature=related |
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26 Posts Member #: 1228 Member congleton |
24th Mar, 2010 at 06:04:52pm
Spent the last 24hr reading up I get it and now know what I am doing.
I'm no expert, but as long as I've got my angle grinder and big hammer, I'm sure I'll manage to work it out. |
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1267 Posts Member #: 831 Post Whore Montreal, Canada |
24th Mar, 2010 at 07:12:31pm
On 24th Mar, 2010 johnflamered said:
Spent the last 24hr reading up I get it and now know what I am doing. Paul s your really do know your Stuff but your people skill need some work as your quick to take the piss and that's not what forums are for That's a laughable statement coming from someone who had to have a whole lot of regulars tell him that his questions didn't make sense and that he needed to do some research and thinking before posting. And to address it at someone who has made major contributions to this forum is the icing on the cake. I think you're the one who doesn't quite understand how a forum works. Jean |
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26 Posts Member #: 1228 Member congleton |
24th Mar, 2010 at 07:59:11pm
I Understand what I need to get/do for my engine not know everything injection and yes Paul has done a lot and all very cutting edge but no need to take the piss anyway rant over I'm no expert, but as long as I've got my angle grinder and big hammer, I'm sure I'll manage to work it out. |
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 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
25th Mar, 2010 at 11:09:19am
Why the rant?
On 20th Mar, 2010 Paul S said:
Injecting the 5 port Mini successfully is very difficult due to the siamese inlet ports. Have a read of this: http://www.starchak.ca/efi/siamese.htm If you want to do port injection properly, then you will need an ECU that allows you to set the injection timing. The latest Megasquirt and the MS2/Extra code will do this. The Mini specific bits were developed and tested by this forum, so there is plenty of support. You will need the Jenveys with two injectors if that is what you want. However, if you want to go supercharger or turbocharger, then a simple throttle body will suffice. Have a read of the EFI stuff on here. On 20th Mar, 2010 Paul S said:
There is no doubt that you could get a single Jenvey to "work" in a wet manifold situation, but I'm not convinced that you would get accurate AFRs on all cylinders. I would need to see some dual wideband plots to be convinced. You could fit two Jenveys on a short twin SU manifold and effectively have port injection. But you will need timed injection to make it work right at all loads/speeds. It would be cheaper and simpler to use an OEM throttle body, but you would need to fabricate a manifold to take the injectors. The specific issues of dealing with the siamese ports means that it's not simply a matter of buying the latest fashion in branded components and bolting it all together. On 20th Mar, 2010 Paul S said:
No amount of rolling road and mapping will fix a poorly configured setup. A wet manifold etup will be no better than a carb, most likely worse. A port injection setup without an ECU that will provide timed injection won't give results either. On 21st Mar, 2010 Paul S said:
On 21st Mar, 2010 johnflamered said:
not after perfection to start with half the fun is making it better as you go alone Over the last couple of decades, several very clever people have taken this approach with a normal ECU, spent years trying to get port injection to work and then given up. I've spent the last three years getting it to work, with a lot of help from people on this forum, and I would strongly advise against just throwing any ECU that cannot do timed injection at the problem, unless you have a magic screwdriver. EDIT: Must say that without Jean's work on the code none of this would have been possible. I'm just the tester really. This is another useful read from Marcel. I know TurboDave had similar experiences: http://www.starchak.ca/efi/efi.htm On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
25th Mar, 2010 at 11:45:09am
Thanks Joe. I don't think I can add to that.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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