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rosco454

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On 18th Oct, 2009 PaulH said:
+ these have a greater range of motion that the standard Item,

Paul.


Thats the reason im giving them a try - hadnt really thought about bump steer too much,if theres any issues with them i can change back easy enough.

Edited by rosco454 on 19th Oct, 2009.

On 20th Jan, 2011 apbellamy said:

I have a bit of a fetish for tools


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No you cant'as you'll have to change the steering arms as well.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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Well thats not the biggest issue in the world.

My original plan was to make a setup similar to the one iain had on there so for £11 and useless set of arms its worth a try.

On 20th Jan, 2011 apbellamy said:

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I used 1/2x1/2 rose joints with a spacer on my track rod ends. I spent about 5 hours setting it up, and making the spacers, it transformed the handling of my mini

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


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On 19th Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I used 1/2x1/2 rose joints with a spacer on my track rod ends. I spent about 5 hours setting it up, and making the spacers, it transformed the handling of my mini


Any chance you could post a pic if you have one handy?

Cheers Ross.

On 20th Jan, 2011 apbellamy said:

I have a bit of a fetish for tools


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On 19th Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I used 1/2x1/2 rose joints with a spacer on my track rod ends. I spent about 5 hours setting it up, and making the spacers, it transformed the handling of my mini


Is it as easy as to say that when stationary, the steering arms should be horizontal?

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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On 19th Oct, 2009 Vegard said:



On 19th Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I used 1/2x1/2 rose joints with a spacer on my track rod ends. I spent about 5 hours setting it up, and making the spacers, it transformed the handling of my mini


Is it as easy as to say that when stationary, the steering arms should be horizontal?

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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I'll take a photo later

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


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I thought this was it?


have you set them to be parallel with the lower arm?

Edited by miniminor63 on 19th Oct, 2009.


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thats the jobby!

I'm not sure if they are parallel with the lower arm to be honest.

I just kept checking the tracking at min and max ride hights (with hilo removed) that I see, and tried different spacers under the rose joint untill the minimum amount of bump steer was present.

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


1st to provide running proof
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run a 1/4 in one!!

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On 19th Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
thats the jobby!

I'm not sure if they are parallel with the lower arm to be honest.

I just kept checking the tracking at min and max ride hights (with hilo removed) that I see, and tried different spacers under the rose joint untill the minimum amount of bump steer was present.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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im 99.9% sure that pic is of the road sign around the corner from my house lol

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Thanks miniminor63.

Jim is the spacer just a left and right hand threaded jobbie that goes between the rack and the rose joint?

On 20th Jan, 2011 apbellamy said:

I have a bit of a fetish for tools


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On 20th Oct, 2009 Brett said:
im 99.9% sure that pic is of the road sign around the corner from my house lol


What road sign


On 20th Oct, 2009 rosco454 said:
Thanks miniminor63.

Jim is the spacer just a left and right hand threaded jobbie that goes between the rack and the rose joint?


The part between the rose joint and rack started as some hex bar, it's turned down to leave the hex in the middle only. (This is done to make tracking adjustemetns easy) It's then taped 1/2unf one side and LH 1/2 unf the other. There is then lock nuts either side, one of them is LH. Does that make sence?

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


1st to provide running proof
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run a 1/4 in one!!

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On 20th Oct, 2009 Jimster said:

On 20th Oct, 2009 Brett said:
im 99.9% sure that pic is of the road sign around the corner from my house lol


What road sign
the york road one

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Cheers Jim, that does make sense.Thats what i was trying to describe as well (badly!).

Many thanks.

On 20th Jan, 2011 apbellamy said:

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there no need to put left /right threads into that adapter, just put RH threads in and lock one end onto the rack end , all you then do is unlock the rod end /rotate adapterthe rod end wind in or out,,

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yes you are right carl, I could have done it that way.

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


1st to provide running proof
of turbo twinkie in a car and first to
run a 1/4 in one!!

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These need no special adjuster!!!

Edited by Scruffy on 20th Oct, 2009.

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



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Mine arrived today and they are going to need a spacer,saying that the setup on the car isnt exactly standard so they may fit better in that case.

I have the male/female ones in the picture so would need to make an adaptor with one end externally threaded and the other internally threaded.Might just be easier to order the male/male ones and then sleeve the join with the spacer locked out on the rose joint end as carl mentioned.Im hoping to be able to get onto the lathe at work on friday evening and see what i can come up with.

On 20th Jan, 2011 apbellamy said:

I have a bit of a fetish for tools


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just orederd a pair .rosco how long did the post man take ???


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Delivery was pretty quick,i ordered on a sunday i think and they arrived tuesday morning.

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What the fU45 is bump steer?

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On 1st Nov, 2009 MikeRace said:
What the fU45 is bump steer?


its when you hit a bump and in the panic you turn the steering wheel. same as sneeze steer and feetch-some-crap-from-the-passenger-footwell steer.

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