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6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
12th Jan, 2008 at 09:39:36pm
thats what you say, how do we know you'r not just jumping on the " i thought of it first bandwaggon".
On 12th Jan, 2008 Sprocket said:
Old news Not the only person to have thought of it, but maybe one of the first to implement it. My own Idea was to have a new thrust made up in bronze fixing the bottom half with one small counter sunk allen head screw, the screw itself acting as the oil feed, with a hole drilled all the way through the center of it into the mian bearing oil feed, feeding a small 'v' groove in the thrust face, all the way round. The bottom half designed to overlap the top half (lap joint sort of thing) to transfer to oil to the top half without it getting behind the joint Maybe a bit more complex than what Carl has done, but would ensure an even film of oil all the way round. The reason the screws are used is to keep the thrust bearing, tight up against the bearing housing, preventing the oil pressure forcing the bearing out against the crank, where this would be just as bad if there were no oil feed. |
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4360 Posts Member #: 1459 En-suite user Braintree, Essex |
12th Jan, 2008 at 09:52:30pm
Carl On 19th Jan, 2010 wil_h said:
I would start the furthest place from the finish. On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
I feel all special knowing that I've given your mum my wood. Been neglecting Turbo'd 'A' series.............. |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
12th Jan, 2008 at 10:59:17pm
Woh carl steady!
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Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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4360 Posts Member #: 1459 En-suite user Braintree, Essex |
13th Jan, 2008 at 12:54:25am
Anyways...mini13 get ya drill 'n' tap m8! We will give it ago while my engine is in bits.
On 19th Jan, 2010 wil_h said:
I would start the furthest place from the finish. On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
I feel all special knowing that I've given your mum my wood. Been neglecting Turbo'd 'A' series.............. |
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6745 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
13th Jan, 2008 at 11:04:16am
nice execution of a simple and yet clever idea ,
Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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Site Admin 15300 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
13th Jan, 2008 at 11:27:23am
Ran in the DON all last year Robert, grey clutch spring, oil pressure 60psi cold.
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Site Admin 9403 Posts Member #: 58 455bhp per ton 12 sec 1/4 mile road legal mini Sunny Bridgend, South Wales |
13th Jan, 2008 at 11:34:43am
Nice one guys, did you notice any loss in oil pressure at all? were you using a grey or double grey diaphram? Edited by Jimster on 13th Jan, 2008. Team www.sheepspeed.com Racing
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7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
13th Jan, 2008 at 01:15:50pm
On 13th Jan, 2008 Tom Fenton said:
Ran in the DON all last year Robert, grey clutch spring, oil pressure 60psi cold. This means that the setup has run approx 4 kilometres On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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6745 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
13th Jan, 2008 at 01:26:42pm
On 13th Jan, 2008 Tom Fenton said:
Ran in the DON all last year Robert, grey clutch spring, oil pressure 60psi cold. cool thanks for that Tom Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
13th Jan, 2008 at 01:59:58pm
On 13th Jan, 2008 milamber said:
Anyways...mini13 get ya drill 'n' tap m8! We will give it ago while my engine is in bits. M8 is a bit big isn't it lol! yep i've got taps and stuff, got some nice stainless M3 coutersunk allen heads at work too. On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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4360 Posts Member #: 1459 En-suite user Braintree, Essex |
13th Jan, 2008 at 04:44:38pm
Was thinking brass perhaps? Just in case they got loose they would not do any harm. On 19th Jan, 2010 wil_h said:
I would start the furthest place from the finish. On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
I feel all special knowing that I've given your mum my wood. Been neglecting Turbo'd 'A' series.............. |
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3588 Posts Member #: 655 Post Whore Northern Ireland |
13th Jan, 2008 at 04:47:51pm
On 13th Jan, 2008 Jimster said:
Nice one guys, did you notice any loss in oil pressure at all? were you using a grey or double grey diaphram? Most oil pumps dump loads of oil at anything over idle....So I doubt a small drilling such as that would pose any real problems. 9.85 @ 145mph
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6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
13th Jan, 2008 at 04:53:55pm
On 13th Jan, 2008 stevieturbo said:
On 13th Jan, 2008 Jimster said:
Nice one guys, did you notice any loss in oil pressure at all? were you using a grey or double grey diaphram? Most oil pumps dump loads of oil at anything over idle....So I doubt a small drilling such as that would pose any real problems. thasts correct Stevie,Don, also uses undercrown oil jets and still no sign of low oil pressure using the standard spring and plunger, the locating screws are also brass for the very rteason Jason mentioned, locked in place , carl Edited by fastcarl on 13th Jan, 2008. |
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9812 Posts Member #: 332 Resident Cylinder Head Modifier Mitsi Evo 7, 911, Cossie. & all the chavs ...... won no problem |
13th Jan, 2008 at 04:55:20pm
carl, anyway what size hole have you got in there ?
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6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
13th Jan, 2008 at 04:56:30pm
2 MM, the thrust face is countersunk , so looks bigger obviously. |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
13th Jan, 2008 at 05:03:25pm
tbh if they got loose i don't think it'd matter what they were made of.
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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4360 Posts Member #: 1459 En-suite user Braintree, Essex |
13th Jan, 2008 at 07:07:53pm
A softer metal, the heads on the screws would just wear away, stainless would harm the thrust surface of the crank.
On 19th Jan, 2010 wil_h said:
I would start the furthest place from the finish. On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
I feel all special knowing that I've given your mum my wood. Been neglecting Turbo'd 'A' series.............. |
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45 Posts Member #: 9557 Member South region of the Netherlands |
17th Aug, 2011 at 09:40:53pm
what a clever solution, i will implement this to my build. There ain't no milling machine like the one at home !!! |
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6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
17th Aug, 2011 at 10:07:20pm
On 17th Aug, 2011 pim1275cc16v said:
what a clever solution, i will implement this to my build. don't forget he £30 levy, or i'll soo yow ass off mofo. lol |
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4360 Posts Member #: 1459 En-suite user Braintree, Essex |
17th Aug, 2011 at 10:29:53pm
Blimey....old post. A few years later....are the same thrusts still in there??????? On 19th Jan, 2010 wil_h said:
I would start the furthest place from the finish. On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
I feel all special knowing that I've given your mum my wood. Been neglecting Turbo'd 'A' series.............. |
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6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
17th Aug, 2011 at 10:35:17pm
yes |
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136 Posts Member #: 1751 Advanced Member chichester/bognor |
17th Aug, 2011 at 10:46:13pm
i also am building,is it worth doing ??
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4360 Posts Member #: 1459 En-suite user Braintree, Essex |
17th Aug, 2011 at 11:04:36pm
Well...after Carl saying their the same thrusts after 3 years................... On 19th Jan, 2010 wil_h said:
I would start the furthest place from the finish. On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
I feel all special knowing that I've given your mum my wood. Been neglecting Turbo'd 'A' series.............. |
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6745 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
18th Aug, 2011 at 08:04:41am
are andy and johns thrusts the same ? Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
18th Aug, 2011 at 08:25:19am
We have Carl's oil fed thrust conversion fitted. We think a badly setup double grey is to blame. We're yet to pull the engine and see exactly what the cause and effect is... On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it |
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