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if you dont block the hole you wont make boost.

but if your on about leaving the standard safty vale in place then you wont get more that 7psi of boost out your engine before it lifts and dumps your boost. if you change the spring for the montego turbo spring you will be able to run up to about 11psi. after this you can mess about with packing the spring to make it stronger to allow more boost OR block it off and dont have an over boost protection (this is what almost every one has done including me but it does not make it the best thing to do)


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so in theory its just a crude dump valve? i'm just wondering if this is causing my engine to draw in too much air, can they corrode or leak? tbh i never gave the plenumn any thought when i bolted it on, i thought the only poppets where in the butterfly.

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and what does the valve in the butterfly do then??

On 2nd Oct, 2009 Vegard said:


On 1st Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I bet my first wank came quicker than your first mini turbo


These new modern turbos with their quick spool up time, would make the competition harder.


On 15th Aug, 2011 robert said:
phew!!! thank you brett for smashing in my back doors .( not something i imagined writing... EVER)


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so as that when the butterfly closes the popet opens and a small amount of air can still go through on over-run to reduce compressor stall.

From what ive just read the one in the Plenum is like a super basic wastegate that controls boost from the compressed air instead of the exhaust gases. (a back up for the wastegate in the turbo). And the one on the butterfly is a very basic dump valve type thingy.


P.s I think :S


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The poppet valve in the butterfly is to reduce hydrocarbon emissions on overrun, and was fitted to NASP HIF carbs as well.


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so it can come off then?

On 2nd Oct, 2009 Vegard said:


On 1st Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I bet my first wank came quicker than your first mini turbo


These new modern turbos with their quick spool up time, would make the competition harder.


On 15th Aug, 2011 robert said:
phew!!! thank you brett for smashing in my back doors .( not something i imagined writing... EVER)


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I've not heard of having to do this before?!


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the turbo carb rebuild kit has a butterfly without the valve thing, most people have rebuilt there carb and used the new one, my engine works fine with the new butterfly and it must be less of a restriction


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Ahh fair enough, ill be rebuilding mine soon anyway.


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it cant cause too much restriction can it?
lol

On 2nd Oct, 2009 Vegard said:


On 1st Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I bet my first wank came quicker than your first mini turbo


These new modern turbos with their quick spool up time, would make the competition harder.


On 15th Aug, 2011 robert said:
phew!!! thank you brett for smashing in my back doors .( not something i imagined writing... EVER)


metroturbo

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I have had the butterfly, without the poppet, on the carb for four years without a problem. IIRC Burlen don't make the butterfly with the poppet valve, so all you can get is the plain butterfly.


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On 5th Sep, 2008 Turbo Shed said:
if you change the spring for the montego turbo spring you will be able to run up to about 11psi.


Does anybody know the spring rate of this Montego Turbo spring ?

Thanks in advance

Rusty by nature

On 23rd Jun, 2008 paul wiginton said:

They said "That sounds rough mate." I said "Cheers it cost me a fortune to make it sound like that!"


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avonbar used to sell the montego spring

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