8th April Easter Sunday Minis Vs Beetles York Raceway
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1989 Renault extra
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1999 Nissan Elgrand

Heres one of me videos from me phone!!!

well i went to spectate and to be honest was a "just allright" day. the thing that bugs me the most at york i the lack of the time display boards you have to try to listen to the cracklemaster p.a system. minis did win but to be honest i didnt really see anything special in the mini department. there were some nice other cars there.

a yellow mini had steering problems off the start and crashed into the barrier, just stopping short of the lighting tree. i suspect he had a problem with the splins or pinch bolt area at the bottom of the coloum. hes damn lucky it did it at the start of the track not at the end. still needs a new wing front panel etc.

V8 hillman imp was cool.

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

I have a back seat video, as it were, of the yellow mini crashing. I'll upload it some time.

I felt that the day was a bit of a shambles, no one knew what was where at the start of the day.

The monster trucks were pants.

was good meeting Carl A and Paul W, both top class cars.

I manager to better last years Avon times, but my technique is still pants

Out with the old and in wih the new for Avon

One thing i meant to ask you Carl, was, how are your bling cranks working?

Oh an i managed 82.91mph at 16.536 seconds

Edited by Sprocket on 8th Apr, 2007.

I was quite pleased, I overcome Avon 06 problems and was back on form running 13.4 twice and a 13.5 but with 3 tenths slower 60ft than usual (no grip at all). Can only get better for Avon 07.
Paul

I seriously doubt it!

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turned out they never took it the pussys!!! carl is lucky once again then! ha ha ha

looks like mitp is a defo goer then!

bring on the pod!!!!!!!

balls to the blower!!!



1330,stage3 head, gt1549, canems ecu, S/C box and drops

Im sunburnt to kingdom come now! LOL! LOBBY the lob!!! Carls right! Not alot of Standout minis.....just v8 muscle LOL,

Back once again like a renegade master

Whoopsie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7X8LNvbca8

i made it, 35 quid and i got 2 runs!!!! i was not a happy bunny on the way home!
i got there at about 12:30 and got a run in as soon as i sighned in, then the second time my exhaust fell off (yes that was me) then the third run that i did was in RWYB because i dident qualifty, i had the same problem as i did the first time, first and second were fantastic then third it just stopped driving and dident want want to know, i am still unsure of whats wrong with it as i dont have anywhere to test what changes i might make. then the 4th run i was told i cant run on the start line because i have a bad oil leak! and that was the end of my day. after staying up untill 2:30 in the garage the night before, and many before that, borrowing a trailer and spending 40 quid on fuel. i got to drive half a mile in second gear haha weather was top tho. and i wanted to meet more poeple but i spent all day running backwards and forwards trying to fix porblems:(

and i really want to thank the kind man that gave me some oil for free, i dont even knoe his name but his mini was the verry verry nice blue one that got 12 seconds in the other lane on my first run

i have one vid if anyone can host it?

Dan:)

http://turbominis.co.uk/car/105/

Ah it was your car that was smoking reasonably, with the broken exhaust.

Not being funny but 12.30 is a bit late when signing on started at 9 and racing almost started at 10, but i do agree that there was not so many runs as there were so many run what you brungs.

And yes if the oil leaks are bad, they wont let you on the track, they dont want any sort of slick on the track especialy when they were running super stocks, which are hairy enough as it is, lol, one nearly fell off the track as it was with all that torque steer he had.

Avon is a much better event but still they have RWYB, which does piss every one off.

Still I managed 7 runs through the day

York was my first ever visit to a Drag meeting, I finished up taking the wife and Dan, (my boy) along with his two cousins and their parents. Despite what some of the above posts have to say about the day We all had a great day, Cheap entrance fee, reasonable fast food prices and loads of enthusiastic competitors and spectators.
Regarding Minis I have attached three photos of what I considered the best performing, best engineered and best prepared. (sorry about the sprogs in the pics)
Dan has not shut up about "Carls mini" since we left.
Just one question I have to ask, Why do most of the quick cars not run air filters? with all the dust and grit blowing about I would have thought it would be a definite asset.
Due to having the family in tow I could not spend as much time as I would have liked to roam round the pits so maybe one of you can help me, I saw a clubman estate with twin engines, does anyone know anything about this car? It looked quite quick.
Looking forward to attending more events and maybe having a go
Regards
Dave

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Dave, are you talking about the car with monster arches and painted a similar colour to mine??


carl,ps i have a clue as to my bad running, could be wrong though,

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Carl, Yes I think that's the one, Don't remember too much, I just looked up and saw all four wheels spinning.
Be interesting to know what the problem was.
Regards
Dave

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Say no more

regards
Dave

having had time to ponder my misfortune yet again[ read bad prep]
for those not present on the day,

i had hell on getting the car off the line due to rear engine dropping almost dead on me ,i have checked last years slips for launch data, and saw only good reports even when launching in 2nd, even on petrol only,

so seing as i could not even get anything like a clean launch in 1st,with the symptoms just as bad as the 2nd gear launch , but the car picked itself up well after the 60ft and as soom as the Gas came in it took off like a good'un. recording two 120 plus mph passes but well down on the et, due to the really bad launch,

so on reflection and having a good think about things ,
i figured that seing i changed the ignition on the rear engine last november and used a pucka lucas module , this would be assumed to be working, but once the car took off it ran clean so no apparent electrical missfire during the pass,
now id noticed the rear engine idle to be irratic,[something iv'e had before] but not being able to think straight didn't make much of it at the time as it cleared once up on the main jets, so to speek, so all i had to do was give it plenty revs off the line and all will be well,
at this point i'm still convinced i have too much grip at the rear which is bogging the engine badly, so i stiffen the dampers and increase the tyre pressures,

all to no avail ,
same symptoms on all four runs,

so today i strip down the rear carb and find a blocked idle jet,[completely solid with something,]

so i suspect thiswas my problem even though i give it lots of revs to launch, the revs will drop right down when the clutch comes in pulling the engine right down, but w ith a blocked idle jet there will be nothing to sort out the low speed fueling to the two cylinders effected, leaving it up to the main jets which these cannot do a good enough job off with such low gas speeds,

thus the mother of all bogs.as when two cylinders go down even for a split second at such a critical time the games over,

now thats my theory, so any input from those with experience are welcome ,but please dont speculate as i can do that myself,

i'll tell you aboput my bollocked up shootout race later, it really didn't appear to be my fault'lol.

carl

Edited by fastcarl on 9th Apr, 2007.

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Carl, I don't have a lot of experience of drag racing but I do know a little about weber DCOE/IDA so here is my twopence worth.
The idle jets do more than just the idle, they control the progression up to around 3,000 rpm and more importantly in your case, they continue to supply fuel once the main jet circuit comes in. Assuming the existing carb jets have worked well in the past it should be back to normal if the idle jets are cleaned. If it has always been something of a problem it might be worth having a look at swapping the mains up or down a size.
As a result of this I would suggest you have found your problem as the effect in the 3-4,000 rpm range would be very noticable.
Plug readings after the run would show normal as the faulty period would only be at the launch.
Time for some non video datalogging. ie 2x innovate Lm1's
Regards
Dave
PS. I know you know all this but the more input the quicker the solution, hopefully.
Regards
Dave

Nice one Carl, I said it was fuel didnt I.

Paul

I seriously doubt it!

That's interesting info Dan. I didnb't know that the idle jets would have made that much of a difference.

carl i'v said this before, but you relly need to find somewhere you can play with your car properly ever since you went over to 2 engines every event has been plagued with what are(and dont take this the wrong way) simple problems, that if you could shake the car down properly you would have easily spotted and got ontop of. i know it cant b easy finding somewhere but there must be somethign you can do! industrial estate, airport logn stay carparks, the local high street at 3pm?

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.

TurboDave, The idle jets are the single most important part of setting Weber carbs correctly closely followed by the accelerator pump circuit.
As a test if you try removing both emulsion tube/ main/ air jet assemblies and then drive the car you will see exactly how much influence they have.
Having seen some recent posts comparing Weber and SU there is understandably some condemnation of Webers. The problem is a complete misunderstanding of how Weber carbs operate. The few occasions I have had a Weber carbed Mini at the RR the operator seemed happy enough to play with Main/ Air correctors at WOT and put the rest of it down to the cam. Over the years I have learnt and managed to find my own way of doing things
I know most guys on here prefer SU's because they understand them, I don't, I have all sorts of problems with how they work correctly and how they are setup on a rolling road.
Weber's I can understand, in fact I make part of my income from restoring/ refurbishing them.
I find the myths of them going off tune and needing constant attention quite amusing, my daily driver uses two dcoe's and has proved both economical and reliable.
Just realised I am ranting on
Regards
Dave

You are lucky I got no petrol on Sunday fd fuel pump by the time I went home and fixed the problem I only got back at midnight:(
But we got drunk and had a good time on Monday sorry I coudnt help the minis on Sunday but I will next year HONEST.
Allan

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here the video of one of my qualifiers,
have a listen

CARL

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