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I was a bit worried I'd lose interest in my own projects, but if anything it's made stuff possible to do that it wasn't before.

The hole is straight trough, as I will more than likely be fitting the bearing from the outside and making a cover plate. It's made the machining easier as the original circling groove would be difficult to machine at home. We have an indexing boring head at work, but trying to get a free slot on the mill when the boss is out would probably take months! So my plan is to use a boring head and leave a step in the bore to locate the bearing and a cover plate to hold it in position.

The second reason was also machining related. With the hole being open I can measure the bore in comparison to the shaft and work out how far to offset bore it, and in which direction to get it inline with the shaft. I used a machined collar to align it so its pretty close anyway, but after welding it has no doubt moved slightly off centre. So all in all it seemed the most sensible way to do it, and it won't be visible under the flywheel housing anyway.*wink*

Edited by matty on 10th Aug, 2013.

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Yea I'd second that sound a ace job.

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Yea I'd second that sound a ace job.

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On 10th Aug, 2013 matty said:
The hole is straight trough, as I will more than likely be fitting the bearing from the outside and making a cover plate. It's made the machining easier as the original circling groove would be difficult to machine at home.


Okay Matt, understood. Type of machines available will control the direction of engineering. Here it is no difference. However the circle groove I never found as a true problem: using some dremel-ish machine in a jig on the right level will do a lot. Alu is a soft material luckily so that goes easy.
Getting the hole in the transfer cover 100% in line with the hole in the box still gives me a little more headache. I was thinking of your method when sorting out the distance of the shift fork shaft: a pointed rod in dummy bearings giving a mark in the transfer cover.
As I will have the drilling done at a befriended company, all things need to be drilled in one session. So the gasket faces of the box and transfer cover need to be flush first.

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The frustrating thing for me is I work on all the machines I need daily, but we're not allowed to do our own projects on them. *oh well*

I drilled the new locating holes today in the transfer housing and box gasket face...and the clamp came loose when drilling, so I decided to use a helicoil, then the helicoil jammed a few threads before reaching full depth...successful evening in the workshop! Lol

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On 12th Aug, 2013 matty said:
The frustrating thing for me is I work on all the machines I need daily, but we're not allowed to do our own projects on them. *oh well*


I hate that,

IMO theres no better way to get an employee motivated/better trained than if they beinifit from it in an enjoyable way... ie Homers!

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Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Exactly, but it just means homers have to be well planned! My boot is always full up with stuff ready for an opportunity. Even simple things like surface tables are a god send when your trying to measure something properly, like checking how bent your crank is. *hehe!*

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On 12th Aug, 2013 matty said:
The frustrating thing for me is I work on all the machines I need daily, but we're not allowed to do our own projects on them. *oh well*


It's the most annoying thing, especially when you struggle to do something at home, or have to pay someone to do something, that you could do at work with no hassle given the time with the equipment!


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Well I managed to get my helicoil "issues" sorted! *hehe!* and then drilled casing to final size and counter bored.

I've made a start on the neutral light switch too, and if the boss is away I'll be borrowing the welder to weld a lug onto the box casing for that too. *happy*

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Show your boss this build thread, maybe that'll encourage him to let you loose on the machines!

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if you have lunch or work with in earshot try slip your progress and interest in doing this sort of stuff at home but lack the proper tooling alth he might jet angry or suspicious that you seem to be making progress every time hes gone haha


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I've been doing some thinking lately about oil levels in the box,and I'm trying to work out my options...

My concerns at the moment, is that my box is near enough full with gears etc, and I no longer have the speedo drive housing so if I fill it with oil it with 3.5l of oil it'll probably be halfway up the bores. (Well maybe not quite that high but you get the idea) Lol

So do I attempt some kind of semi dry sump, with maybe a level hole drilled in the box at the desired level and a separate tank to hold extra oil with some kind of feed between them.

Another idea was to modify an oil cooler, so it has say a 1L capacity end cap on it mounted at the same height I wish the oil to be at therefor kind of self regulating the oil level.

Or maybe some other option that I haven't though of?

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On 16th Aug, 2013 matty said:

So do I attempt some kind of semi dry sump, with maybe a level hole drilled in the box at the desired level and a separate tank to hold extra oil with some kind of feed between them.


i have seen this before the bloke called it a remote extended sump and had 2 pipes, one at the top and one at the bottom ( like the twin tanks with joined breathers, oil from the turbo was returned here too, i think the idea was to keep some sort of flow
it was in effort to lower the engine in the chassis, seemed to work well

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You could plumb it in so you have it pumped through the modded oil cooler via a restriction like a flow regulator that would feed back at the correct rate into the sump not to flood it. I suppose you may need to run more oil so there is plenty circulating the engine but not dumping back in too fast so it stores it for a while.
I suppose this would be classed as a semi dry sump no?


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I was looking at a box casing on guessworks stall at MITP. There was a threaded bung in the top of the normal oil pickup (where the O ring goes) and then a hose mounted on the back of the blanking plate. This apparently went of to a filter or something.

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i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

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On 16th Aug, 2013 bakker110 said:
You could plumb it in so you have it pumped through the modded oil cooler via a restriction like a flow regulator that would feed back at the correct rate into the sump not to flood it. I suppose you may need to run more oil so there is plenty circulating the engine but not dumping back in too fast so it stores it for a while.
I suppose this would be classed as a semi dry sump no?


This is something I am considering, but I can't help thinking that if I get the return flow slightly wrong it could cause the gearbox to run out of oil. And as the viscosity of the oil changes it may be difficult to consistently regulate? It's an option though!

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On 16th Aug, 2013 apbellamy said:
I was looking at a box casing on guessworks stall at MITP. There was a threaded bung in the top of the normal oil pickup (where the O ring goes) and then a hose mounted on the back of the blanking plate. This apparently went of to a filter or something.


I've been thinking of using the oil pickup point somehow, as it would be easy to blank off the block gallery and put a fitting on the outer blanking plate, but I got stuck at the point of knowing how to get the oil back into the pump?*oh well*

Um sure there is some combo of the original pickup pipe, sump plug, and an external tank that could work but can't piece them together. Lol

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Is there a way of using a current running engine with a flow meter in the filter pipe to measure flow at different temperatures then aim to replicate


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does this mean you can now use fancy oil as was it not the mini gearbox that required non synthetic oil?

how are you doing your oil pick up> could you not use an extended sump area to make sure you have enough oil and to do a pickup and return with a leveling do-dah there as well?

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Do you need to worry about the amount of oil?
Try filling the box up with old oil to 3.5" deep (thats the standard level) then measure how much is in there, I purposely made mine hold 1/2 a litre less oil to save weight - so far (4 years) Ive had no adverse effects

I seriously doubt it!


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how did you make it take less oil? made a barrier?

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I'm just concerned that the oil level might be soo high that the crank might end up passing through the oil and slow the crank down? I don't think I'd want to risk running less oil, as I'm going for a thinner grade oil now and I need volume to keep the temps at a reasonable level. I'll be running a decent oil cooler too. Just trying to think of ways to optimise things. :)

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Can you get away with just fitting a larger oil cooler for more capacity, possibly a remote filter too with a larger cannister - the longer hoses will hold extra capacity too

I seriously doubt it!


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windage tray? can you do any sort of baffeling?

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I reckon your own idea of an oil cooler with increased capacity is the best way to go.

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