How to get started in Hillclimb racing
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So what do you need to go hillclimb racing? Do you needs an ARDS licence? What do you need to have done to your car? How can I find out where my local club is?

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was just wondering this myself, good post

well I'm a member of the HSA

http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/

Which gets you entry to loads of great events and is a grat place to start.

This is who to get a licence off

http://www.msauk.org/site/custom/home/default.asp?chapter=22

And you don't need to pass anything, just fill uin the form and send it off with £30ish, no medical , nothing.

With your licence you'll get a copy of the blue book which contains all the regs - from what type helmet you need to what tyres you can use.

Wil

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

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there is also the Auto 66 club which i'm thinking of joining later in the year. My mission is to attempt one this year for sure. Hopefully where one of you guys are so i can have some pointers being new to this racing lark!

i thought i would have done one before now but you know what i'm like with projects!

im gonna jump on the smallbore turbo bandwagon for just this.

aaarrrhhh!
too many projects!!

"Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun"

"did you know you can toast potato waffles?"

The HSA has a forum, but it's for member only, and it's not very busy either. If you contact Ben Boult or Paul Richardson http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/contacts.htm they might be able to put you in touch with someone who knows better.

The problem is that Supplementary Regulations contain class structure rather than the MSA Blue Book. And Suplementary Regs are written by individual clubs, so you'll never get one answer.

Also, Sports Libra is not such a popular class, it is essentially a catch all for people outside all other classes as far as I can see. So even if it is seperated by ccs you'd find that on the day that there would most likely be one amalgamated class. This could contain anything from a spaceframe Imp to a hillclimb special..

Wil

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

www.twin-turbo.co.uk

so what would you have todo to a standard road legal car to make it legal for racing? You need your battary in a box don't you? mine isn't at the moment, what else do you need todo?

Team www.sheepspeed.com Racing

Standard road legal car is easy.

You don't need the battery in a box, just as long as it's secure.

Other things you need (off the top of my head, but I think it's it)

1) an arrow showing which way to turn the ignition key to off (with 'off' written on it)

2) Thw -ve cable of the battery should be coloured yellow (yellow insulation tape is fine)

3) numbers (preferably on a white background)

4) 2 return springs on the throttle (HIF has this as standard)

5) a mat black 'timing strut' I can't remember the dimentions and height it needs to be, but could get it if you want.

Other general things would be that the seat is fixed down and seatbelt securly fasened. also that the car is in generally ok condition, no play in wheel bearings, steering etc. And also they push the brake pedal.


If I think of anything more I'll add them on.

Wil

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

www.twin-turbo.co.uk

Will ,your forgetting the most important thing a person needs if he or she is to enjoy many years of motorsport under the RAC MSA, and that is a very thick skin and the unrivelled ability to accept being told whats right and wrong with your car from a complete wanker more commonly known as scruteneers without question,usually something different everytime you meet the same tosser.

carl.

ps OH!! jim ,they will probably want to do security checks if you tell them your from wales.lol.

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Quite right Carl. here is a list of things I have been told.

1) "your handbrake mounting is cracked that needs welding up mate" (put it on the log book) it wasn't cracked it was the seam sealer that was. And in anycase Mod Prod cars have no stipulation to have a handbrake;

2) "that's not propper cage padding, it has to be egg shaped or that new hard stuff" It was the propper, very expensive stuff and it dosen't have to be the new stuff, yet;

3) "Your fire extinguisher is too small for a twin nozzle system". It was supplied as a twin nozzle system and it was the correct capacity. If he'd read the Blue Book he have realised that. Would he prefer I took it out? I don't have to run one at all.

these were the best, there have been others.

Wil

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

www.twin-turbo.co.uk

so i could race my car, despite the fact i have holes in the bulk heads and no roll cage, in a road class?

Right bumping up this thread.

I'm looking to join this club as the event's are all fairly local for me

www.auto66.com

So i need a competition membership (does this then include the relavent licence?)

Then roughly how much does it cost to purely enter an event?

I'm going to join when i get to a printer for the membership form and assume alot of my questions will be answered but thought i'd get some advice from here.

would like to go to my first event with someone who knows what they're doing to be honest!! but sure i'll muddle through.

Most races are 100miles at most, with nothing over 110miles so not to bad for me at all. always important really.

Looking forward to next year, getting all my gear for christmas as a present to myself! ha ha!

Let us know which races you are doing and I'll see if I can come along :)

Edited by Scruffy on 2nd Dec, 2006.

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know

Wil am i looking at the right thing http://www.msauk.org/uploadedfiles/msa_for...Application.pdf it looks like you have to have a medical :(

Edited by t3gav on 3rd Dec, 2006.

so what sort of club type racing could you run a 1293 turbo mini then? as it sounds theres no point in doing so in hill climbing as your up against crazy stuff!!

My build thread..

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=542985

I'm not fussed about running against crazy stuff as you can still compare your times with other "comparable" cars in other classes.

Gav, the licence i think you need is a national B non-race as only 1 car is run at a time. i want to get my national b at some point though incase i ever start circuit racing.

Just wondering if i can get away with my offshore medical for it?

Ah cool, will prob get a national B too was just wondering for the time being, whats the deal with more than one driver using the same car?

For the national B i assume you have to take the ARDS test as well which i £250ish

Yep, buy the pack here http://www.demontweeks.co.uk/products/Prod...&pcode=BOKARKS6

Yep non-race national B is what you need, no medical required.

Duel drives as just as the name suggests, two drivers driving the same car. You will both have to enter the event seperately, but on the form somewhere it will have a place to enter the duel drivers name. On the day its self (and this is different at all events) one of you will run in class order and the other will normally run a class ahead or behind. Inbetween runs you will have to change the numbers on the car. This is easy as if on driver is so number 60 then the duel driveer will be 760 so you just cross and uncross the 7. There is an art to it as it can all happen very quickly at some places.

Wil has just written a 'How to get started in Hillclimbing ' for the HSA. when it is finalised I am sure he will post it.

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http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/default.asp

A man without a project is like a like a woman without a shopping list.

Ben i assume this means the other driver cannot run in the same class putting him at a disadvantage/advantage depending on class, or am i being fick?

Sorry I made that unclear. Both drivers in the same car will compete in the same class. But the running order on the day will mean that one of the drivers will actually drive the car in a group of cars in a different class. Does that make it any clearer?

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http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/default.asp

A man without a project is like a like a woman without a shopping list.

Yes much thanks :)