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 2974 Posts Member #: 10749 Post Whore lowestoft suffolk |
14th Oct, 2017 at 08:06:28pm
That certainly changes things... On 24th Oct, 2015 jonny f said:
Nothing gets past Dave lol NOTHING GETS PAST ME!! 
1/4 mile 14.7 @ 96mph 12psi boost Showdown class A 2nd place 18.6 @ 69mph |
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 1648 Posts Member #: 9038 Post Whore Carlisle, Cumbria |
15th Oct, 2017 at 08:03:52am
I'd still rather have a professional look over my car just for piece of mind. And don't the rules state its had X% power increase then it'll need an MOT |
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 1767 Posts Member #: 9165 Previously josh4444 Australia, brisbane |
15th Oct, 2017 at 08:14:01am
just make sure it "makes" x -1 hp |
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 855 Posts Member #: 951 Post Whore Bromsgrove |
15th Oct, 2017 at 08:57:15am
This is a much bigger can of worms, read the documentation, modified cars will have to stay within the '8 point rule' which means no cutting the bodyshell. Otherwise it's BIVA and Q plate. Effective from May next year on all cars over 40 years old. 'Where does the engine go?' |
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 2629 Posts Member #: 1246 Post Whore Lowestoft, Suffolk. |
15th Oct, 2017 at 10:12:17am
I’d be concerned that it would encourage more cars to be mascaraded as something they’re not in order to reap the benifits and potentially inflate the market for all things pre ‘73.
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 2094 Posts Member #: 9894 Post Whore Dorking |
15th Oct, 2017 at 01:03:43pm
Stupid idea.
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 2500 Posts Member #: 648 Post Whore Northern Ireland (ex AUS) |
15th Oct, 2017 at 01:19:35pm
For the likes of body modifications under the 8 point rule, does this count additions to the chassis (like braces between chassis rails) or just modification (cutting/chopping) of existing rails? I guess I need to do some reading... On 7th Nov, 2008 Nic said:
naeJ m !!!!!!sdrawkcab si gnihtyreve ?droabyekym ot deneppah sah tahw ayhwdd |
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855 Posts Member #: 951 Post Whore Bromsgrove |
15th Oct, 2017 at 04:33:10pm
Cutting rather than stiffenng of the shell. 'Where does the engine go?' |
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2974 Posts Member #: 10749 Post Whore lowestoft suffolk |
15th Oct, 2017 at 07:03:24pm
So bulkead boxes, flip fronts, sprint minis, tubbed arches etc all in trouble n gonna be q's? On 24th Oct, 2015 jonny f said:
Nothing gets past Dave lol NOTHING GETS PAST ME!!
1/4 mile 14.7 @ 96mph 12psi boost Showdown class A 2nd place 18.6 @ 69mph |
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 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
15th Oct, 2017 at 07:30:04pm
On 15th Oct, 2017 steve1275 said:
This is a much bigger can of worms, read the documentation, modified cars will have to stay within the '8 point rule' which means no cutting the bodyshell. Otherwise it's BIVA and Q plate. Effective from May next year on all cars over 40 years old. I think you are wrong, the documentation is somewhat grey in areas, but, I will point to to this https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/exempti...ehicle-approval which says that vehicles over 10 years old are exempt from 'Approval' but it does not say whether if you then radically modify the vehicle whether that exemption becomes void........ Grey area ! Edited by Sprocket on 15th Oct, 2017. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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 2742 Posts Member #: 637 Post Whore Hertfordshire |
15th Oct, 2017 at 07:35:16pm
Might also be worth checking with your insurance. My build thread..
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2974 Posts Member #: 10749 Post Whore lowestoft suffolk |
15th Oct, 2017 at 07:36:40pm
A quick google brings up forums all worrying about this for years... so not gonna worry just yet On 24th Oct, 2015 jonny f said:
Nothing gets past Dave lol NOTHING GETS PAST ME!!
1/4 mile 14.7 @ 96mph 12psi boost Showdown class A 2nd place 18.6 @ 69mph |
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 1043 Posts Member #: 10424 Post Whore Swansea boyo! |
15th Oct, 2017 at 07:52:35pm
I saw this a few weeks ago.. I think the only people who are happy about it are the people who would let their car get to a failure stage and still do nothing about it! They don't die, they just get faster! |
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2500 Posts Member #: 648 Post Whore Northern Ireland (ex AUS) |
15th Oct, 2017 at 08:20:51pm
I've been panicking generally for a good few years as I have an import but it's far from standard so I'm trying to figure if it'll end up Q or IVC but I think it might be ok. I don't want to have to inspect it in standard form then add the mods later as that's a bit iffy plus extra faff. On 7th Nov, 2008 Nic said:
naeJ m !!!!!!sdrawkcab si gnihtyreve ?droabyekym ot deneppah sah tahw ayhwdd |
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855 Posts Member #: 951 Post Whore Bromsgrove |
16th Oct, 2017 at 08:19:49am
Sprocket, I think you are quoting from type approval. The new legislation is all about MOT and tax. It uses similar rules, and I think from May next year we will have to be careful what we declare. There is more detail coming on the definition of modified vehicles for MOT purposes at the end of November. 'Where does the engine go?' |
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 9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
16th Oct, 2017 at 10:02:57am
I can see the point in someone trying to do something.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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 6549 Posts Member #: 1149 #1 Basshunter Fan Force Racing ICT Dept Manager Miglia Turbo Am frum Yokshyer tha noes! |
16th Oct, 2017 at 10:17:16am
I agree with Wil on this one. I think it will come down to the Mot'er in the end.
On 16th Oct, 2017 wil_h said:
I can see the point in someone trying to do something. For example: You an fit an LS1 engine to a 1930s chassis and keep the cable operated brakes. Not really safe. the idea is to regulate this sort of modification. The problem is, that unless there is specific requirements to satisfy, who is to say what's safe. Mr MOT man can't work to 'satisfactory' as a guidance. He also won't have testing facilities to test anything beyond normal MOT requirements. Ultimately I doubt that it will have much effect. 1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
16th Oct, 2017 at 12:04:21pm
On 16th Oct, 2017 steve1275 said:
Sprocket, I think you are quoting from type approval. The new legislation is all about MOT and tax. It uses similar rules, and I think from May next year we will have to be careful what we declare. There is more detail coming on the definition of modified vehicles for MOT purposes at the end of November. It’s all relevant. You have a mini that is older than 10 years old and is already registered, an IVA is not required whether rebuilt or modified. The new rules are an extension of this. With the new rules though,what constitutes as ‘Radically Modified’ is down to 8 point rule, which is designed to highlight the vehicles destined for a Q plate. This rule has been around for years, it’s nothing new. To receive a Q plate the car will have to go through an IVA, which is then exempt by its own rules as it is older than 10 years?...... I see nothing new, other than maybe the DVSA trying implement what’s been in place for years. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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 6745 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
16th Oct, 2017 at 01:11:28pm
10 year rule only referring to imported cars i think . Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
16th Oct, 2017 at 09:46:00pm
On 16th Oct, 2017 robert said:
10 year rule only referring to imported cars i think . Whatever. The way I read it, Vehicle registrations for radically altered vehicles is based on the 8 point rule, if the vehicle points accumulation is less than 8, you need to apply to the DVLA for a Q plate and they may then ask for an IVA. IVA for radically altered vehicles then exempts a car from the IVA if it is older than 10 years. You get a Q plate. If the points accumulation is 8 or more, winner winner chicken dinner, keep your original plate 
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
17th Oct, 2017 at 10:07:43am
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations...storic-interest On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
17th Oct, 2017 at 10:07:46am
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations...storic-interest On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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3004 Posts Member #: 2500 Post Whore Buckinghamshire |
17th Oct, 2017 at 09:47:23pm
I have been sufficiently concerned at the proposed changes to sell my turbo A35 and move on to something else.
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 4625 Posts Member #: 20 My sister is so fit I won't show anyone her picture Lake District |
17th Oct, 2017 at 11:06:02pm
On 17th Oct, 2017 tadge44 said:
I have been sufficiently concerned at the proposed changes to sell my turbo A35 and move on to something else. Difficult decision after 38 years with the car Noooooooooo !!!! |
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 1030 Posts Member #: 1291 Post Whore Suffolk / Birmingham |
18th Oct, 2017 at 03:57:47am
I really don't understand what people are worried about. |
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