D4VE's clio 172 cup
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Picked myself up one of these and got a huge chunk of change knocked off as i know the cambelt and dephaser are a biatch to do... i know a few people on here have had them.. any do's n donts and advice please, spoke to a renault technician about doing cambelt/dephaser/waterpump etc but hes coming up with different advice to what ive researched on net? So thought id throw it out on here



here it be... ^^

Edited by D4VE on 20th Dec, 2015.

I had a ph1 172. Got it for a good price so bit the bullet and took it to a specialist for cambelt, de phaser and w/p. Fred at BTM performance in Birmingham. Top bloke and couldn't fault his work.

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May i ask what he charged for that? I know the parts alone are expensive

I seem to think it was around £600. It's a little bit of a ruff and ready place but he knows clios like the back of his hand. Owns a v6. Genuine, helpful guy too.

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get some cams, decent exhaust and induction kit & remap ;] dead fun then

I just sold my 172 Cup. Great cars

The 172 cup is cheaper to have the Cambelt changed as there is no a/c. BTM did mine and I think it was around £350.
I don't think the water pumps cause an issue, but there are 3 special tools needed to change the belt apparently.

Another top tip is to keep it entirely standard. I have loads of interest from France when I sold mine, I think they will pick up in value very soon due to European demand, most have been turned into track cars and the cup is the one to have as it is rare.

What you got now then Nic?

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.

Brown Porsche?

Something boring that I can tow with.
I can't say what it is as everyone assumes I'm expecting a child

Funny you say that nic because i just beat a french man to my cup! He actually was coming over to look at it this week.. the guy i got it from said apparently there not available over there or something? So yes your right that does look like thats what will happen! I plan on just making it in mint condition, starting with getting the engine sound but the guy doing it hasnt filled me with confidence, he has managed to get the special tool you speak of and ill go speak to him again before its appointment next thursday. I do love the 172 cup because renault just done everything from standard that most of us would do.. no sound deadening, thinner lightweight glass, no air con, no abs, lighter turini alloys and suspension etc

They had the 172 Ragnotti, which is the same car but super rare.
Apparently they are worth something like €4000 minimum I heard.

i sold my spares collection on eBay offering worldwide postage made me loads of money.

I had a 182 for a good while, great cars if you look past the little foibles. I sold it and bought an R26 Megane, I just put timing belts, accessory belt/pully/tensioner, waterpump plus oil/filter for about £500. Not bad. I couldn't get my 182 sold, I ended up trading it for a grand sum of £2500. I am now selling my R26, again no one seems to want it!

Never heard of a ragnotti.. ill go have a quick google... please if anyone has pics of theres chuck them up!
^^ just googled it ^^ seams to be what a cup is but just badged as a ragnotti (jean ragnotti french rally driver) in the eu

Edited by D4VE on 25th Feb, 2015.

What was the 182 special you could get, it was blue with optional white stripes? Someone had one near me, a mate bought a 182 Trophy for the same price as a cup as the dealer didn't know what it was. I just had a full fat 182:



Then onto this:

I know what ya mean with the stripes, your friend done well with the trophy! Id love a liquid yellow 172/182... theres a mint one that drives thru town with ronal style wheels it always looks immaculate.. i did actually try chase him in the 200sx this evening but he flew through traffic n was off!! Out of curiosity how much u asking for ur r26?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/adv...201501210339567

£5995 ONO. I would love an R26R or a Clio V6, but need to be sensible!

Here's my old ph1 172..

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Them ph1 oz f1 alloys i thought they were 15's..? But renparts are selling a set on ebay but they say 14's!?

They were standard fitemt 15's. I think some of the 1.2 or 1.4's had a sport model which they came on 14's. These don't fit over the 172/182 brakes though. They come in 16's too but good luck with finding a set of those 😉

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I love my 172 cup. Solid engine mounts. Rear arb and slightly stiffer springs made all the difference. And a smaller steering wheel! And 15" superleggeras. And...

Great cars but you end up adding bits once you start tracking them.

Right i went to the mechanic whos doin the work next week... he was ok with everything but confused to why theres so much hoo ha about the dephasers being done too... i know wherever u look your hear of these sports having or needing belt and dephaser... any reason why they go noisey alot more commonly than most vehicles?? He asked why i want dephaser done cos it will be much more expensive? I said its just what ive heard and read and would like the peace of mind of ALL of it being done in one go

As far as I know the dephaser is prone to crapping out, to change it you'd have to do the belt again which is an awkward job, hence doing both together and be done with it.

An ex Renault lad did mine on the 197 for me , I supplied the bits then £60 later it was done. He did it at work while I was doing other things one night and was done within 2 hrs !.

Great little cars

Cheers for info guys... he rang today with prices and cambelt and dephaser and aux belt 430, genuine parts 470 (both kits are made by same people its just if i want the word 'genuine' next to my stamp) im well happy with that price and since id been budgeting for 600 im gonna get him to do oil, filter, plugs, engine mounts and anything else he advises whilst hes there

Right well its back and is much much quieter! He said he will keep my old belt as an example for others at how bad and cracked it is! And he thinks its the original too!!! ANYWAY... i asked if i have to becareful or run the new belt in at all? He said no the way he does it its all good to go! But friends have said no becareful n run it in?