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Nick warwick

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So change of plan.

Fed up with the supercharger running problems so decided to go turbo.
Picked up a recently "rebuilt" engine from a guy on here



The only problem is that when i got it home the crank didn't turn with the flywheel. After a strip down i found out the flywheel bolt wasn't tight and the keyway wasn't located (been informed it was a pre-verto bolt used too)



Flywheel and crank out of line



Time to inspect



F ML another problem, Gears also covered in grease



YAY!



Had the crank checked and was all fine so just had it polished



Stripped the block down for cleaning and paint prep






Edited by Nick warwick on 29th Jul, 2014.


Carlzilla

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Jesus Christ, that could have been dangerous. Always pays to check unless you see it running in the car!

On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper

On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!!

17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine)


apbellamy

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That's shocking. Is it this engine?

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=532908

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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That engine has had more owners than I have had hot dinners!
And I now see why it was never advertised as running *happy*

Best of luck

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On 21st Sep, 2006 Paul S said:

Go on, be brave, put it in the car and tell us how it works.
Pity your bollocks are in line with the flywheel!
On 27th May, 2013 robert said:

putting my testicles on the line for turbo mini owners everywhere ,and they still work !


WRLondon

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Don't forget to check the timing and torque everything up *wink*
Made that assumption before and backfired horribly

Reading up on RTS Clutches

On 21st Sep, 2006 Paul S said:

Go on, be brave, put it in the car and tell us how it works.
Pity your bollocks are in line with the flywheel!
On 27th May, 2013 robert said:

putting my testicles on the line for turbo mini owners everywhere ,and they still work !


Nick warwick

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On 23rd Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
That's shocking. Is it this engine?

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=532908


Thats the one! rebuilt and ready to go supposedly *laughing*

Don't worry i will be checking everything is torqued down correctly.

I could have done a better job with a plastic fork!


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Plastic fork lol... Good luck!


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For fucks sake.

In the 13's at last!.. Just


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i'd be asking for some money back!


Nick warwick

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Problem is i bought it off somebody else so he has been done like me.

Primed


First coat of Ford light blue, wish it was slightly lighter. hopefully it will lighten when dry


Plenum painted with crinkle paint


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oh! dear! don't forget to replace the conrod bolts for ARPs






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I can understand an amateur thinking "load the bearings with grease", but I cannot fathom how they could step back after putting that flywheel on and think that that was acceptable. It's a good job you've checked it before running it!

I'm surprised it hasn't been said already, BAC...

How did you find applying the crinkle paint? I'm tempted to try it on my rocker cover but I've heard it can be tricky to get good results.


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Bad luck on the engine but looks like your getting right in there *smiley*.

On the crackle paint heat what you are painting you get a more even finish, there is a video on youtube about it *smiley*

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-Rover 100 VVC #2 - track project

Searching is all you need on TurboMinis


Nick warwick

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On 23rd Oct, 2013 BENROSS said:
oh! dear! don't forget to replace the conrod bolts for ARPs


Would the bolts already installed be ok? Just trying to keep costs down as much as possible since this wasn't my plan to have to rebuilt it.

On 23rd Oct, 2013 Amp said:
I can understand an amateur thinking "load the bearings with grease", but I cannot fathom how they could step back after putting that flywheel on and think that that was acceptable. It's a good job you've checked it before running it!

I'm surprised it hasn't been said already, BAC...

How did you find applying the crinkle paint? I'm tempted to try it on my rocker cover but I've heard it can be tricky to get good results.


The crinkle paint is pretty easy to apply, straight forward painting but the trick is to heat it up in a oven to get a good crinkle effect.
Mother would go wild if i put things in the oven *happy* so i used a heater on full power to basically bake it. I would get a much better result if i used the oven method though.


I did have a week of being mega fucked off with the engine but i just thought time to get on with it!


John

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Standard bolts are up to the job but judging from the rest of the engine, how do you know some gorilla hasn't over torqued them??

For the sake of less than £100 I'd be going for them even on a standard-ish build.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


Nick warwick

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£40 odd for standard bolts

£100 for ARP

Hmmmmmm


Tom Fenton
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What a bag of shite. Sadly I'm not suprised TBH looking where it came from though.


On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:


On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


oli79

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+1^

Arp bolts £100

Engine rebuild if one let's go £shit loads more than 100

Best of luck with it

Edited by oli79 on 24th Oct, 2013.

On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today.

On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet *tongue*?

The Morris Ital assassin!


Nick warwick

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If anyone meets the guy that built this, please bitch slap him!


Carlzilla

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Hahahaha

On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper

On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!!

17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine)


Nick warwick

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Nice work on the flywheel housing man! *Clapping* he has been using that fucking fork again





998 flyhweel housings the same as 1275?


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On 25th Oct, 2013 Nick warwick said:
998 flyhweel housings the same as 1275?


If they are both standard A plus, essentially yes except the 998 doesn't have the breather hole drilled (well not on the ones I've seen).

There may be other subtle differences I've not noticed but that is the most obvious one.

If it's a pre A plus 998 (or 1275) one, forget it, the idler bearing is a completely different size.

If it's a genuine turbo one you have, again no.... the input shaft support bearing (can't remember the proper name) is bigger so won't fit in a standard 1275 or 998. Although you could allways revert to the standard bearing as I see in an earlier photo it's fooked anyway.....

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???


Tom Fenton
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Oh dear, what a chimp.

You need to check on the size of 1st motion shaft nose roller bearing, turbo and non-turbo are different sizes.


On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:


On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


apbellamy

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This is why I would never buy a used engine from somebody that I didn't know well.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


Nick warwick

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I got the old bearing off hoping it would have some id markings but it had nothing on it.

I already bought the turbo bearing ready but since the case if shagged i need a new one or i will try save it and get it re sleeved.

If i can sell it or send it back i will resort to a non turbo A+ case

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