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wil_h

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I have an entry for the Crystral Palace Sprint on 27 May. It's actually a 2-day eveny, but I'm only competing on the Sunday.

Eric, in the turbo clan will also be there, pluse lotso of other interesting machines.

http://www.motorsportatthepalace.co.uk/

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


Scruffy

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Good luck - not been since the track was cukked again - nor will I now!

That should have said culled!

Edited by Scruffy on 21st Apr, 2012.

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



wil_h

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Great photo, you couldn't be accused of missing the apex!!

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


Scruffy

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Or as the rally boys say ............. don't cut!

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



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Great tyre sidewall deflection..

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
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wintersurferuk

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ive tried reading all the entry stuff do i have to be a member of a club or something?

Just gessing i'll be in the CATEGORY A around the 1800 cc class.

wouldnt mind a go at this.

if not maybe a club stand, i know of three cars

Edited by wintersurferuk on 28th Apr, 2012.


wil_h

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You need to be a member of one of the invited clubs (or have ana A licence).

I think the closing date has passed though.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


wintersurferuk

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thats what i thought, oh well, its someting i'll have to look into for next year.


On 28th Apr, 2012 wil_h said:
You need to be a member of one of the invited clubs (or have ana A licence).

I think the closing date has passed though.


Scruffy

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What spec is your car?

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



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Scruffy. It's essentially a standard 78 clubman with adjustable suspension kit, alloy 4 pots and a 150hp 1275cc turbo lump.

I'd be interested too, If there is a 'casual' road car class. I don't think either of us would be fussed about being competitive (ie - if we end up in up to 2000cc class).

In the 13's at last!.. Just


wil_h

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As has been said in another thread, there is no way to run a 1275 cc turbo mini in any class. Well you can run in sports libra. Next year you will be able to enter Mod prod upto 2000cc, but then you'll need to comply with all the Modprod stuff.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


wintersurferuk

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lol who you calling Scruffy!

I thought that as long as you havent engine swaped and just moded it, there was a chance. i'll read it again.

thanks


edit haha! i see, scruffy is on tm!

On 1st May, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:
Scruffy. It's essentially a standard 78 clubman with adjustable suspension kit, alloy 4 pots and a 150hp 1275cc turbo lump.

I'd be interested too, If there is a 'casual' road car class. I don't think either of us would be fussed about being competitive (ie - if we end up in up to 2000cc class).

Edited by wintersurferuk on 1st May, 2012.


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They should make a class called Road Libre or something like. Anything goes aslong as its road legal, taxed and MOTed and insured for road use.

I currently have a car that is all of those things but cant compete in the Road class because of my cylinder head not being an original casting or because it has no back seats.

So instead of competing against other road cars, ill be competing in mod prod class againsts cars running slicks etc etc.

Not that im bothered by this i was just saying. It seems fundementally wrong to me

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On 14th Mar, 2012 mw3 said:
Got a nice big delivery from Carl at Force Racing today.


Ben H

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If you want to enter an event speed events are very inclusive, but as with every other motorsport if you want to compete you have to look at the rules first.

This is not really an MSA issue it is a club issue. If you could get a group of like minded people together and gurantee numbers, lots of clubs would be willing to set up a class for you. Just look at the HSA with the MX5s and the flatheads. Also midland championship this year are running a saloon libra class I believe.

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wil_h

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Exactly. You wouldn't on the off chance build a single seater and expect it to be elligable for F1 (or any other single seater series) without first looking at the rules. Why would you expect the same in a saloon car?

As Ben says, you may well find a championship class that means that you will have fun competng against similar out-of-class cars.

Personally I'd love to see your car at a hillclimb.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

www.twin-turbo.co.uk

On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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Im not saying its not fun lads, i was just saying.. from a point of view of getting people into motorsport i think a road libre class would be good.

I know what your saying though, for me id just put some slicks on and be more or less there anyway.

Probably do some events at curborough towards the end of the year Will. Was going to do the championship but ive already missed one event and the car isnt ready yet.

Matt W




On 14th Mar, 2012 mw3 said:
Got a nice big delivery from Carl at Force Racing today.


matty

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Im in the same position, im building my car to be used for track days etc, and I'd love to have a go at hill climbing, but I wouldn't want to have to modify the whole car to qualify for a class.

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Id also like to use mine and not have to ruin it by making it fit a class


mw3

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Road libre lads, you heard it here first *wink*

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On 14th Mar, 2012 mw3 said:
Got a nice big delivery from Carl at Force Racing today.


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For those down South West way, the Downton Engineering Works Social Club has a speed series which has quite relaxed classes. I will be entering it once I have got the required clothing and a trailer to take the car to events - so more then likely next year now to be honest.

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yeah I gave it all a good prodding


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There is no easy answer. Speed events are great for standard road cars. Good for modified road cars, but you have to be careful what you modify. If you go outside of the rules then you end up in mod prod or sports libra. As soon as that happens you need roll cages and all the associated safety gear.

The problem for most on here is that although the cars are road legal, they are well beyond the road going modification rules so will fall into mod prod. At the moment mod prod won't allow a mini to run a turbo over 1000cc, so you then end up in sports libra. Hence our cars. The rules are changing hopefully and soon 1400 turbo minis in mod prod will be allowed in the upto 2000cc class.

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Until they start winning!


On 1st May, 2012 Ben H said:
The rules are changing hopefully and soon 1400 turbo minis in mod prod will be allowed in the upto 2000cc class.

Matt W




On 14th Mar, 2012 mw3 said:
Got a nice big delivery from Carl at Force Racing today.


Ben H

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It will be almost impossible to out law them from the class. Individual cars might be thrown out on a technicality, but you can't outlaw a mini from series production as a whole.


On 1st May, 2012 mw3 said:
Until they start winning!


On 1st May, 2012 Ben H said:
The rules are changing hopefully and soon 1400 turbo minis in mod prod will be allowed in the upto 2000cc class.

http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/default.asp

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Nic

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On 1st May, 2012 Ben H said:
The rules are changing hopefully and soon 1400 turbo minis in mod prod will be allowed in the upto 2000cc class.



Tell me more!

Can I get away with my cut out rear bench? Fibre glass front? Lack of interior (although this can be put back in)? Plastic Windows? 1B tyres?

Unintentionally i've built an unusable car, I cant even enter it in an autosolo.

These rules to keep motorsport cheap have meant that I need to build a new car!


Ben H

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You could have entered your porker in a roadgoing class.

Your car will definetly end up in mod prod (keep quiet about the rear bench). It is only in mod prod that you can move capacity class. There maybe a few sticking points. If you sent me some photos of your car I could make a list to get you started, i doubt that it will be much.

You have at least a year until the changes take place, although there is no gurantee that they will yet. If our paths cross during the year we could discuss it in detail.

Edited by Ben H on 2nd May, 2012.

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