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Well, I have finally made a start, after a bit of running around to find some cost iron rod and 3/8unc die for plugging the head bolts, 1/4 cast iron plugs and 1/8 brass plugs along the buying threading taps to match, so I can block the water and oil ways







Today finished product



But here the tap slipped, so i need to drill out the tap again






Edited by philc on 27th Jul, 2010.


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moderators, please delete. thanks


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if you take the " width=640 height=480" out of the img code (ie [img]) the pics should show

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Today finished product




But here the tap slipped, so i need to drill out the tap again




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Edited by theoneeyedlizard on 27th Jul, 2010.

In the 13's at last!.. Just


philc

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block has come back from the machine shop with its first skim and a good old dip in acid






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Some more progress made yesterday and a big thanks to Martin at MJA engineering in Bromsgrove for letting me use his machines and the use of his time.
So, mmm the template, :dontknow:
Used some blue die to help with the marking for the studs, made sure the head was square to the block and fixed down

And centred each stud hole with the tightest 10.5mm drill bit I could find.

Then dotted each one


In the first instance we decided not to go into the water ways with only 11mm thread, then on reflection and after a conversation with Colin I think I will have to and ensure it is water tight with loctite.
This was very time consuming as I wanted to make sure it was right first time.

Next is to drill into the waterways and tap them, and then blank off the waterways as going to go dry deck.


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More progress made, drilling and tapping block for stud and blanks off the water ways




She was a bit tight on the studs but on she went :laughing7:


This was really boring and time consuming almost 5 hours :angry9:


And the finished product, though the shaft closest to the time chain needs a couple of mm taking off as it is wider in diameter than the other, this is for next week. :crybaby2:



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Bit more to update, started to do a little porting, just to sharpen up the edges, just need polishing now






Had the head welded for dry decking, I didn’t think £30 was bad at all




And the end bit welded but I think the inside needs welding aswell, just for my piece of mind





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Completed a bit more today, had all of the holes welded on the head, so ready for dry deck


Finished polishing the inlets and exhausts today, just to take off the rough and sharpen up some of the edges



Just wanted to ask a couple of questions about the head




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Not a lot done yesterday, head had its first basic skim, to remove the weld, I did not realise how much ali heads distort, though not too much on mine, as JK says in his build guide 'note the shadows' :laughing7:



Took out the bung, drilled and tapped for the oil feed


I did not tap one of the stud threads straight so that needs sorting, 4th one in



In respect of the oil feed to the head, I am going to blank the oil feed on the block

Then I have two choices I think and this is where I need a little feed back, where would the best place to drill and tap either the black area or blue, then put in an adaptor, then a pipe to feed the head


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Offset bored to match the head ?

Rusty by nature

On 23rd Jun, 2008 paul wiginton said:

They said "That sounds rough mate." I said "Cheers it cost me a fortune to make it sound like that!"


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Nice project. Is this to be turbo'd?

On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding


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On 27th Jul, 2010 Advantage said:
Offset bored to match the head ?


possibly, however, my understanding from sprocket is the bore will need lining then moving over, or something similar



On 27th Jul, 2010 minimole23 said:
Nice project. Is this to be turbo'd?


sadly not, i think too much of an expense on this one, but happy with n/a hoping to get a good power out put and good driveability


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you cant really offset bore to line up the chambers in the head on a 1380, it really would have to be a custom head gasket, and then we also start getting to the point of bore wall thinness akin to a 74.7mm bore, THIN!!

Head studs are already drilled so you wouldn't be able to line up the head chambers left to right.

+60 or liners are required and relocating ALL the head studs if you want to try and line up the head

Edited by Sprocket on 28th Jul, 2010.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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Also offsetting the bores seems like a massive amount of work considering performance people are already getting without such measures :)

Can't wait to get started on mine


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So, have decided that the head bolts I have drilled and tapped where crap, so ran around yesterday to find some 16mm cast iron bar, no chance, could only get 30mm for £14, which needed to be turned down for a 14mm tap. So I have spent the morning turning that down, very boring and tapping it with a 14mm die.
Whilst in the process of getting the bar, I asked the guy at the counter if he knew where I could get the studs holes drilled and tapped using a cnc machine, well he took me down the road and introduced me to Bob, who is going to do it on a Saturday morning for me with a few beer tokens chucked in, how lucky was that.

Spent an hour or so last weekend re drilling and tapping all of the bolt holes

And tonight putting new 14mm blanking plugs in along with a few brass plugs for the waterways, new a few more brass ones then can be skimmed ready for cnc.




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Looks good. How did you tidy up the extra metal on the plugs? Hacksaw or something more exotic? I've got the same to do to my block and head for dry deck.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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On 4th Aug, 2010 apbellamy said:
Looks good. How did you tidy up the extra metal on the plugs? Hacksaw or something more exotic? I've got the same to do to my block and head for dry deck.


the old faithful grinder, just be careful not to slip and cut too much off the surface of the block. do it as close as you can, less time wasted on skimming


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if your dry decking the head why don't you plug the water gallery holes on the block too?

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


1st to provide running proof
of turbo twinkie in a car and first to
run a 1/4 in one!!

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On 5th Aug, 2010 Jimster said:
if your dry decking the head why don't you plug the water gallery holes on the block too?


i am just have run out of brass plugs


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good stuff

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


1st to provide running proof
of turbo twinkie in a car and first to
run a 1/4 in one!!

Is your data backed up?? directbackup.net one extra month free for all Turbo minis members, PM me for detials


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I'm being tight. I've spent £6 on two lengths of brass bar. I will just spin them down to the right size on the lathe and turn a thread on them. I'll be doing both block and head.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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seems to me this is the 'easy' bit of the 16v conversion,i'd get stuck with all the igntion side of things,
keep up the good progess!!!

On 2nd Oct, 2009 Vegard said:


On 1st Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I bet my first wank came quicker than your first mini turbo


These new modern turbos with their quick spool up time, would make the competition harder.


On 15th Aug, 2011 robert said:
phew!!! thank you brett for smashing in my back doors .( not something i imagined writing... EVER)


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On 5th Aug, 2010 apbellamy said:
I'm being tight. I've spent £6 on two lengths of brass bar. . I'll be doing both block and head.


I hope not all with brass plugs *surprised*

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