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Ok, so you've been working on minis for years - and you suddenly find something new out, tell someone, and they already knew about it and assumed everyone else in the world did, hence why they never told you....

I'll start.

1) You can pull a 'pot jointed' mini engine out without splitting your hub ball joints, you just lift the engine 2" or so, push to the left, then pop and slide the opposited side pot out, and drop down, then push to the right and pop&drop the other pot joint, then lift the engine.
I assumed everyone knew this - I know it was (is?) written in the haynes manual that you had to split the BJ's, but I found out when I was 18 or 19 that this wasn't neccesary - and assumed everyone else did, until I was giving a stateside enthusiast some guidance over the phone today.

2) You can leave the turbo in place when lifting the engine in and out. Yes - seemingly obvious - I always used to remove my turbo (again - this is over a decade ago) until I realised it could be left in place on the outer two studs (the inlet manifold/carb/plenum - or just the plenum needs to be removed though) which makes things a lot easier.

3) A Metro front RH engine steady wedges nicey into the starter hole and locks up the flywheel a treat.

etc, etc, etc...
What you got?

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I always use an old bearing shell to lock the flywheel has always worked well for me :)

On 17th Feb, 2009 Rob H said:

I find the easiest way is to super glue the bolt to the end of one of my fingers.

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4) When removing a steering wheel, do not take the boss nut or steering wheel retaining nut compleatly off or you may hurt your self with a steering wheel in the face.

5) when re-fitting your engine. make sure your pot joints are in properly before driving down the road and loosing all of your oil on ollie's driveway...

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Use WD40 when putting window rubbers in, instead of washing up liquid. This was you dont get bubbles when it rains!

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On 5th Feb, 2009 Paul R said:
4) When removing a steering wheel, do not take the boss nut or steering wheel retaining nut compleatly off or you may hurt your self with a steering wheel in the face.

5) when re-fitting your engine. make sure your pot joints are in properly before driving down the road and loosing all of your oil on ollie's driveway...


Loving those ones!

6) make sure you refit the sump plug before pouring 5 litres of very expensive oil straight through onto the garage floor....

On 15th Jul, 2009 fastcarl said:
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On 21st Sep, 2009 apbellamy said:
No, but you did chuck your guts up over my front gate the Saturday before! You even managed to get a bit in your arm pit...


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On 5th Feb, 2009 mini_surfari said:
Use WD40 when putting window rubbers in, instead of washing up liquid. This was you dont get bubbles when it rains!


never use washing up liquid or wd40 because they eat the rubber.

just use water.


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Don't clamp you're wiring loom to the shell with a toight ratchet strap and a massivly too big fuse at the other end....

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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On 5th Feb, 2009 apbellamy said:
Don't clamp you're wiring loom to the shell with a toight ratchet strap and a massivly too big fuse at the other end....


In English please.... *Confused*

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On 5th Feb, 2009 TurboDave said:

On 5th Feb, 2009 apbellamy said:
Don't clamp you're wiring loom to the shell with a toight ratchet strap and a massivly too big fuse at the other end....


In English please.... *Confused*


1) Always use the correct rated fuses.
2) Dont earth parts of your loom that aren't meant to be earthed.

Both these will help avoid melted wiring loom and other electrical components (stalks, switches etc etc).

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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sure it was on here i read this one

1. next time the wok is off, put a cut where the hole is for the hardest to reach bolt, so next time you only need to back off the bolt a little and you can remove the wok, makes reinsertion easier too. (apologies i canny mind who to give credit too!)

2.the "rule of 9" for ajusting tappets. when the first valve is fully open, ajsut 8, when the second is open, ajust 7.
1+8=9, 2+7=9 and so on.

Edited by evolotion on 5th Feb, 2009.

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On 5th Feb, 2009 TurboDave said:
You can pull a 'pot jointed' mini engine out without splitting your hub ball joints, you just lift the engine 2" or so, push to the left, then pop and slide the opposited side pot out, and drop down, then push to the right and pop&drop the other pot joint, then lift the engine.


Or split the ball joints (just the top ones) which will take less than 5 minutes with the right tools and will take about an hour less than removing all the ancilliaries necissary to push/pull/swing/lift/left/right (the engine) ......

Call me old fashioned if you want, but I do it the easy way (splitting the top ball joints).

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On 5th Feb, 2009 Rod S said:


Or split the ball joints (just the top ones) which will take less than 5 minutes with the right tools and will take about an hour less than removing all the ancilliaries necissary to push/pull/swing/lift/left/right (the engine) ......

Call me old fashioned if you want, but I do it the easy way (splitting the top ball joints).


TBH i dont think you need to remove anything, ive only ever removed mini engines by not splitting ball joints and ive pulled engine out totally complete even with rad on im sure?

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl.


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Well, I'd like to see you do the "swing left" with the rad still on :)

I knew it would be contentious when I said it but I seriously find it easier to spend less than 5 minutes splitting two ball joints than removing half the paint in the engine bay by swinging the engine against it.....

Maybe I'm just showing my age.....*frown*

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I've got fed up of swinging the engine and split the ball joint now!

On 15th Jul, 2009 fastcarl said:
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On 21st Sep, 2009 apbellamy said:
No, but you did chuck your guts up over my front gate the Saturday before! You even managed to get a bit in your arm pit...


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good thread, i do often think of this when i am working on the car, unfortuanatly (sp) my memory is so poor that the only one i can think of is...

to get the clamp on the down pipe (t3) weld the bolts onto one side and to tighten the nuts (excuse me for not knowing the real name!) one of them ring spanners that thats bent on both ends..

sorry if it makes no sense i tried hard! lol



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Fitting rear wheel cylinders- push the new cylinder into place, get a pair of mole grips, turn them round so the handle that is usually nearest you faces away from you. Clamp them onto the hub flange. If you do it right, clamping them on will force the wheel cylinder hard up against the backplate, leaving you with 2 hands to fit the clip.


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or...

http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?ty=...inder%20Circl...

easy.

On 5th Feb, 2009 Tom Fenton said:
Fitting rear wheel cylinders- push the new cylinder into place, get a pair of mole grips, turn them round so the handle that is usually nearest you faces away from you. Clamp them onto the hub flange. If you do it right, clamping them on will force the wheel cylinder hard up against the backplate, leaving you with 2 hands to fit the clip.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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I'm willing to bet that 99% of people have got mole grips though, and probably not many have one of those.


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On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
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3) A Metro front RH engine steady wedges nicey into the starter hole and locks up the flywheel a treat.

good one






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On 5th Feb, 2009 Tom Fenton said:
Fitting rear wheel cylinders- push the new cylinder into place, get a pair of mole grips, turn them round so the handle that is usually nearest you faces away from you. Clamp them onto the hub flange. If you do it right, clamping them on will force the wheel cylinder hard up against the backplate, leaving you with 2 hands to fit the clip.


thats a cracker!!

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Got mine from a show for a couple of quid after spending ages trying to get one on without knowing the mall grip trick....

On 5th Feb, 2009 Tom Fenton said:
I'm willing to bet that 99% of people have got mole grips though, and probably not many have one of those.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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as mentioned, slotting the bottom 2 wok holes as a top idea

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When removing the flywheel, loosen off the crank bolt but do not remove, do the bolt back up until there is only a few mm between the the flywheel and bolt, then use the puller, this will prevent the flywheel launching itself into your shins!

alternatively use some strong wire to tie the thing down.


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Cut the 5 tops off, not much though. Place over dizzy with leads going through fingers and use the small zip ties to secure the fingertips when weathers grim/wet for a while, and hey presto water proof dizzy!

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